Originally Posted by TheChief

You can view it here:

http://www.southparkzone.com/episode...-Mormons?.html

Originally Posted by Sickntiredofliblies

I already mentioned the southpark episode.


And his response is that I was being rude. Still, usually Southpark exaggerates things to an extreme level when they make fun of them. They didn't when they told the story of Joseph Smith. It was funny enough just telling it how it is.

Originally Posted by Link S.

I am sorry but i must reiterate I do not have high speed internet I work off of dial-up so I am very sorry but You could tell me the parts you want to know about.

Originally Posted by Link S.

You seem to have misinterpreted our history please allow me to correct this.

Originally Posted by Link S.

We never once claimed that all Native americans were from Hebrew lineage as a matter of fact Lehi only used the Hebrew language and nowhere does it say that he himself was a hebrew.

Originally Posted by Link S.

Second off many native americans crossed the land bridge from Asia intermingled and intermixed which would thin the DNA evidence so it couldn't prove either way. You seem to be following the findings of the molecular biologist who apostized for this very reason.

Originally Posted by Ozek

DNA evidence cannot be "misinterpreted". It simply is what it is. The sun shines. When the sun goes behind a cloud or under the horizon, you can say what you want but the fact is, the sun is still shining.



The book of mormon states that Lehi was a descendent of Joseph, who was a descendent of Abraham, Issac and Jacob:

"And Aminadi was a descendant of Nephi, who was the son of Lehi, who came out of the land of Jerusalem, who was a descendant of Manasseh, who was the son of Joseph who was sold into Egypt by the hands of his brethren." - Alma 10:3




There are genomes that are passed down from generation to generation that do NOT - repeat - that do NOT "thin out" over time. They either become more genetically diverse or less genetically diverse, but the traces are still there.

In North America, there are 5 mitochondrial lineages found here, all of which can be traced back to Asia. These 5 lineages can all be traced back 50,000 years or so, but once arriving in America, their genetic diversity decreased because they only bred among themselves.

If Joseph Smith was correct, then

(1) we would clearly see DNA markings of some other people that came from the meditteranean area - ANY OTHER PEOPLE - HEBREW - GREEK - TURKISH - AFRICAN - JEWISH - ARAB - PERSIAN - BALTIC - SCANDANAVIAN - but we do not, only the 5 haplogroups from Asia

(2) genetic diversity would have increased, not decreased. If these people intermixed with a single hebrew - JUST ONE HUMAN BEING FROM ANOTHER HAPLOGROUP - then there would be genetic fingerprints as well as INCREASED genetic diversity all over the place.

If you have proof counter to this, please produce it.

Originally Posted by akc814ilv

I live in West Jordan Utah...

And I think Mormons are incredibly insane and wacky with some of your beliefs.

Im an Atheist, so naturally I am going to not agree with Religion, but I can at least respect the other religions (for the most part) because I cant disprove them.

You can essentially disprove Mormonism because you can essentially prove that Joseph Smith was full of crap and when asked to prove himself he couldn't do it (claiming he was the only one that could read the word of god and bla bla bla)

Now I have quite a few mormon friends and we get along fine. But I think its just a big giant business designed to brainwash people and make them hand over their cash.

Originally Posted by TheChief

ahh nevermind then.

Originally Posted by Link S.

I know that in the present election many people have questions about the LDS church more commonly known as mormons. I would be happy to answer any questions one has about my religion in a factual way and not try to put anyone out or make it seem like I am forcing my religion on anyone.