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Old 04-13-2008, 07:25 AM
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"make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."
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And yet, prohibiting the free exercise of religion [specifically Christianity] is exactly what the libs are attempting to do in the US when they demand that prayers cannot be offered, Christmas decorations cannot be displayed, etc.....
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The Free Exercise of religion does not extend to any sort of public right. It's a private right.
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Let me put it another way, lets say a group of muslim siblings come into your neighborhood and are going to school with your child. Would you be comfortable with them having the right to chant "There is no god but Allah, and Mohammed is his prophet" in class with your child? Religion and expression of religion have no place in state funded organizations. If you want expression of religion in schools, pony up the cash for a private christian school or stop complaining about the founding fathers and their wisdom.
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And yet, prohibiting the free exercise of religion [specifically Christianity] is exactly what the libs are attempting to do in the US when they demand that prayers cannot be offered, Christmas decorations cannot be displayed, etc.....
its not prohibiting free exercise, you are allowed to do it in free time it just when its organized by goverment establisments its wrong.
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And yet, prohibiting the free exercise of religion [specifically Christianity] is exactly what the libs are attempting to do in the US when they demand that prayers cannot be offered, Christmas decorations cannot be displayed, etc.....
If Christians wish to partake in said activities then they should do so in a private area, whether it be a private Christian school, household, private Christian community groups etc. Having a secular state means the state takes no side in any religion, meaning that any 'public square' or grounds cannot be used for religion because it makes the impression of the impartial secular state favoring one religion over the rest, which is why teaching religion in public schools must be objective and give equal time to all major religions.
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Freedom of religion does not equate to freedom from religion.

The state cannot promote a particular religion but that in no way implies that every mention of God in public life must be eradicated.

I have no problem with people praying to whoever they want or displaying their faith in public settings, including in schools. If a kid wants to talk about or pray to Jesus, Muhammad, Krishna, Budda, the Devil, or Zeus then that is their right. The same goes for politicians. The Islamics, Athiests, and the Moral majority as well as their offspring just have to deal with it.

These things are not the establishment of religion but rather an acceptance of religion. The two are not the same.
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Freedom of religion does not equate to freedom from religion.

The state cannot promote a particular religion but that in no way implies that every mention of God in public life must be eradicated.

I have no problem with people praying to whoever they want or displaying their faith in public settings, including in schools. If a kid wants to talk about or pray to Jesus, Muhammad, Krishna, Budda, the Devil, or Zeus then that is their right. The same goes for politicians. The Islamics, Athiests, and the Moral majority as well as their offspring just have to deal with it.

These things are not the establishment of religion but rather an acceptance of religion. The two are not the same.
I am fine with "One Nation under God" and "In God We Trust" and I actually apreciate the ambiguity of the God that we mention. It is like the Masonic tenet that you should believe God, but it doesnt matter what God you do believe in. But with the rise of Atheism, its become different...
Besides the Democracy and Theocracy are not synonmous.
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when they demand that prayers cannot be offered
Offering you the opportunity to pray isn't the problem, demanding all "will" participate is when the line is crossed!

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I am tired of anti-American forces trying to change the foundation that this GREAT, GREAT Country was built on.
So what part of the state do you want religion to control? Or what part of religion do you want the state to control? I'm confused of what you want :-/
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So what part of the state do you want religion to control? Or what part of religion do you want the state to control? I'm confused of what you want :-/
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