Are you absolutely certain that isn't a rediculous request?

I've never flunked a class aside from basic coding in college. Stupid ass class.


either you are in agreement with Jefferson's sentiments regarding the role of government and church, or you are not. Jefferson supported the baptists in their quest to remove the tyranny of theocracy from their state.

That isn't at issue. What is currently at issue is the right of religion to meddle in the state and dictate theocratic terms. And that parallels exactly the situation with the danbury baptists, who were a minority, and the congregationalists, who had a stranglehold on the state of connecticut.

Separation of church and state protects both churches (particularly minority faiths), and THE STATE from meddling. Perhaps Jefferson had the clearest vision of the reasons for this wall of any of the founding fathers. Hence, his support of similar legislation in Virginia that ultimately became the practice nationally.

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Job 13:5 (New International Version)
If only you would be altogether silent! For you, that would be wisdom.

It's ambiguous because the word "religion" is ambiguous. It''s also misleading because it implies that the government once had jurisdiction over religion.

The word religion is ambiguous? You can't be serious. Give us a few examples, please, of this supposed ambiguity.

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Job 13:5 (New International Version)
If only you would be altogether silent! For you, that would be wisdom.

I don't gather the meaning of the Constitution from letters written over a decade after it was adopted by someone who wasn't even one of the lawmakers. I use the common law rules of construction, and so should you.

What does "ambiguous" mean to you?

of unclear meaning. Duh.

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Job 13:5 (New International Version)
If only you would be altogether silent! For you, that would be wisdom.

I thought it meant a word had more than one meaning. That's the signification I intended.

The word "religion", according to the Oxford English Dictionary, was used to signify more than a dozen different intellectual concepts, or ideas, as of the late 1780's. That's why the word is ambiguous.

Somebody tell us what American law stands on the foundation of "In God We Trust?" The Constitution totally excludes religion from the law making authority of the U. S. Government.

Given that the original unamended Constitution granted the government no authority whatsoever over arms or religion, I don't see why the First and Second Amendments were even necessary. Nor do I see why we should care much about what they mean.

The lawmakers clearly didn't want the federal government to have any jurisdiction whatsoever regarding arms or religion. The only question is whether we interpret those denials of power broadly or narrowly.

So you are all for Christian oppression, specifically Evangelical Reborn Christian oppression against people who pray a different way or choose not to pray at all?

There is only two roads we can ethically take here:

1) we separate Church and State, especially in the schools where children are vulnerable to Christian propaganda and heavy handed lessons from Christian teachers (which would violate the rights of all non-Christians).

2) We teach all religions in school equally. Teach our kids about Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, Paganism, Atheism and so on...equally and without coercions from Christian teachers.

But since we cannot guarantee that Christians (known for using force and coercion to force people into "accepting" Christ) to teach children objectively about any other religion, we have to go with the first option.

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Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum
(To such heights of evil are men driven by religion)