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All of those are Old Testament scriptures that predate the existence of Jesus by thousands of years.

Where, precisely, does Jesus Christ state that blood must be shed for the forgiveness of sins?
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Those are not the words of Jesus.....for starters.
Indeed they are as Matthew was a disciple of Jesus and the old testament speaks of Jesus in almost everything especially in this area.
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look in ex. 22:21 ; 23:9 ; Lev. 19:10, 33-34 ; 24:22. you will find differently.
All written long before Jesus' time.

Didn't Jesus say something about he who is free of sin casting the first stone?


Anyway, death penalty aside - seeing as how Jesus was a man of 'Middle-Eastern appearance' who suffered torture and baseless accusations at the hands of troops of an occupying force - I'm sure he would have a lot of sympathy for the inmates of Abu Grahib and Guantanamo Bay. At least Jesus got some sort of a trial though.
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Father forgive them for they know not what they do?
Jesus was Martyrd within the law (if that is what you want to call it) he went through all the trials and appeared before the necessary people so his death was legal. This phrase was an attempt to curb Gods anger from those who had desired this end on him. "To this end was I born, for this cause came I into the world"
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All of those are Old Testament scriptures that predate the existence of Jesus by thousands of years.

Where, precisely, does Jesus Christ state that blood must be shed for the forgiveness of sins?
These are all from Jesus just because something predates Jesus (and Matthew doesn't) doesn't mean that it wasn't from him.
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First I would like to know what place in the scriptures you have found this look in ex. 22:21 ; 23:9 ; Lev. 19:10, 33-34 ; 24:22. you will find differently.
Those are not the words of Jesus.
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just because something predates Jesus doesn't mean that it wasn't from him.
Do you realize how absurd that sounds?
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Those are not the words of Jesus.
Wouldn't the doctrine of the Trinity say that they are the words of Jesus?
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Wouldn't the doctrine of the Trinity say that they are the words of Jesus?
Those were the words of Moses [Exodus, Leviticus]. Assuming you believe the author of the Pentateuch was Moses.

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