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Do you realize how absurd that sounds?
Listen Jesus was the son of God so it doesn't sound absurd to think that he was able to influence people of an earlier time. This is religiously speaking of course. So tell me how absurd does it sound in that perspective?
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Wouldn't the doctrine of the Trinity say that they are the words of Jesus?
I do not believe in the trinity at least not how they are presented.
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The "doctrine" you are currently espousing is unique to the Mormon church. Just FYI...
So? This is a doctrinal debate I should be allowed to use my personal religious Doctrine.
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Yes he did believe in forgiveness yet remember the two unforgiveable sins to blaspheme against the holy ghost and the shedding of innocent blood. Jesus is for forgiveness which is why he would be for the death penalty to allow those who have commited murder to be forgiven.
How many times have you posted things as fact, and people have corrected you? Even people who aren't even religious have come back with evidence that you continually post false and misleading information.

1. You show that you have know clue what "blaspheme against the holy ghost" is. You can't even type His Name correctly -- "Holy Ghost".
2. Shedding of Innocent blood? So Paul, David, and Moses are in "outer darkness" right now?

You are such a liar. I am sorry. But you wouldn't know a fact if it bit you in the nose.
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Listen Jesus was the son of God so it doesn't sound absurd to think that he was able to influence people of an earlier time. This is religiously speaking of course. So tell me how absurd does it sound in that perspective?

Well, there are a couple points which need addressed:

1. Jesus never claimed to be the 'Son of God' [to my recollection], he referred to himself as the 'Son of Man'.

2. For a discussion like this to be had, don't you think it would be most persuasive if we stuck with the actual words of Jesus [assuming they can be recognized as such] instead of claiming that every word in the Bible is the word of Jesus? Discussions of the Trinity are better left for another thread, perhaps you should start one?
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Okay you know what I have dial up and I can't sit here and wait for everything to download.
Another questionable statement.

You have a history of making excuses for yourself. So I don't believe you.

But on the remote chance you are telling the truth, the U-tube link was a visual and audio intro to the old television show, hosted by Rod Serling, called the "Twilight Zone". Most people hum or sound the theme in response to statements made by another person, when they sound very odd, or are just completely fanciful.

I posted that You-Tube link to infer that your elevator doesn't go all the way up to the top floor. I have argued theology with your white shirted brethren and they at least show some grasp on reality, you however have stated several things that even elders of your own church have told me are false and misleading.

Particularly your "anti-Mormon" comment on any point made against the church that you can't rebut with facts. I recommend you find a professional who can help you communicate better, or get used to more and more people thinking less of the Mormon Church, than when you first logged on here.

Personally, I think you are a symptom of LDS theology, so personally, the longer you post the more people will understand the true nature of the "religion" and we might actually educate someone. So, personally, post on Link, post on...
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These are all from Jesus just because something predates Jesus (and Matthew doesn't) doesn't mean that it wasn't from him.
So Jesus doesn't want us to eat lobsters. And he thinks menstruating women are 'unclean'?

Are we talking about the same Jesus?
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Like that "him" I should "plough the field and scatter my green bobs on the ground"?
Maybe you should stick to 'ploughing' your hot wife!

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1. Jesus never claimed to be the 'Son of God' [to my recollection], he referred to himself as the 'Son of Man'.
Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Joh 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
Jesus did say He IS the Son of God.

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2. For a discussion like this to be had, don't you think it would be most persuasive if we stuck with the actual words of Jesus [assuming they can be recognized as such] instead of claiming that every word in the Bible is the word of Jesus? Discussions of the Trinity are better left for another thread, perhaps you should start one?
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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
(John 1:1-5)
So Jesus = God, and therefore:
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
(2 Timothy 3:16-17)
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So? This is a doctrinal debate I should be allowed to use my personal religious Doctrine.
That's the problem. You are giving more credence to your own "personal religious Doctrine" than you are to proven time-honored recognized truth. (I noticed that you did capitalize doctrine, which isn't surprising. But aren't you even a little disconserted that you would bother to capitalize your own personal doctrine and forget to capitalize the Name of God's, Holy Spirit.)
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