Jesus and the Death penalty - Page 7

Link S. · #61 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by usgrant7

That's the problem. You are giving more credence to your own "personal religious Doctrine" than you are to proven time-honored recognized truth. (I noticed that you did capitalize doctrine, which isn't surprising. But aren't you even a little disconserted that you would bother to capitalize your own personal doctrine and forget to capitalize the Name of God's, Holy Spirit.)

Time honored!? Considering the fact that doctrine from the bible itself changes depending on which church you go to I do not see it as time honored.

Yes I do not have good grammar online but as I see neither do you Name is not capitalized unless it is at the beginning of a sentance. Anyway I think that God has better things to do than to condemn everyone who doesn't capitalize proper nouns.

BillyBob · #62 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tedminator

I wonder what Jesus's stance is on torture...

Apparently he strongly favors it as the Word has been twisted and tortured for 2 millennia.....

Link S. · #63 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by usgrant7

It continually amazes me how you just real off these things without knowledge of them.

Just in case you forgot: Jesus IS alive, therefore He IS the ONLY Son of God.

I use the word "only" because the Bible says "only".

BACK ON TOPIC: In the begining, God established authority in men, to govern the affairs of people. The death penalty is a perfectly understandable means to ensure justice is meated out to offenders who deserve that level of attention. I don't think He ever is quoted making a statement that directly addressed this issue.

I do agree that Jesus is alive as it is a fundament of my religion but it seems to me like you are making mountains out of molehills. Slight mistakes in grammar are nothing at all in the grand scheme of things. I am referring to post-birth christ while he was walking among the Jews. In this sense he WAS the son of god then just as much as he is the son of god now.

(I also don't believe that Jesus would attack people so vehemently with nonsense. He could logically Debate without resorting to character attacks.)

Link S. · #64 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by usgrant7

"All scripture is GOD BREATHED", as 2 Tim. 3:16 says. Just because it isn't in red letters, doesn't mean that the risen Savior didn't dictate the verse to the writer. And as Jesus said, "before Abraham was, I AM", so He said that He is God.

Therefore, if Jesus = God, and "all" scripture is "God-breathed", then wouldn't it be accurate to say that Jesus dictated the whole Bible?

Tell me what religion are YOU?

BillyBob · #65 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Link S.

I will not give you the exact scripture for that is your department but I will tell you to look for the reference that says. “And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him Blessed art thou Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.”

In my religion we do believe that all scriptures from the bible and book of mormon speak of Jesus and are spoken by Jesus through the prophets. so you see to me I am using the words of Jesus in proper context. Apparently some Christians do not realize that Jesus and Jehovah are one and the same. Jesus who gave us the Ten Commandments, and who said, "Whoever sheds man's blood, by man his blood shall be shed, for in the image of God He made man" (Genesis 9:6).

For the sake of this discussion, let us limit ourselves to the words of the 'Historical Jesus' exclusively.

Tedminator · #66 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BillyBob

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I wonder what Jesus's stance is on torture...

Apparently he strongly favors it as the Word has been twisted and tortured for 2 millennia.....

He's in favor of torture? Ya think? Hmm dunno'bout that..

Jesus did afterall cry out "Father, Forgive them for they know not what they do", as he was being tortured.

Link S. · #67 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BillyBob

For the sake of this discussion, let us limit ourselves to the words of the 'Historical Jesus' exclusively.

I will try but I don't think that he commented directly on such issues.

B L Zeebub · #68 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tedminator

I wonder what Jesus's stance is on torture...

Well Ted he invented water boarding, he thought it up one day whilst out for a walk on a pond!

BillyBob · #69 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tedminator

He's in favor of torture? Ya think? Hmm dunno'bout that..

Jesus did afterall cry out "Father, Forgive them for they know not what they do", as he was being tortured.

It was a joke as in: 'The scriptures have been tortured by countless theologians and hacks alike'. If Jesus is truly responsible for every word of Scripture, then He is also responsible for the gross and continuous misunderstanding and abuse of Scripture.

BillyBob · #70 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by B L Zeebub

Well Ted he invented water boarding, he thought it up one day whilst out for a walk on a pond!

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