Originally Posted by stekim

Jesus would not have said that.

Originally Posted by superdude17*

f0ca1 refuses to erase my name from his signature....I believe that b/c I am a member, if I ask for him to remove it, he should. Of course, most normal and sympathetic individuals would have enough common courtesy to respect what other members have asked, but f0ca1 has again and again denied my attempts.

Originally Posted by Ixtellor

Opinion.

If a really smart rock who is into quantom philosophy (we havn't discovered it yet) was the actual creator of the universe, we would BE typing.

I see no logical reason to believe it was God instead of a really advanced rock.




Agnostics and Aethists are happy to say "I dont' know what created our universe". Science will probably explain it some day. You know like lightning (Not Zeus bolt) or disease (Not an angry demon inside you), etc, etc.



So you claim it is more rational to say "God, and only my God, not any of the other gods worshiped by billions of people, created the universe." Instead of saying "We don't know the answer yet"

Who is being rational?



Try to imagine infinite.
(hint: you can't, it is beyond human comprehension)

Being that time was not created until the universe was created, is it possible that the Universe always existed? Espeically if you consider that it was outside of Time.

I will assume you are aware that Human understanding of physics and quantom mechanics do not explain the earliest moments of the Big Bang.

We are still perfecting math or arriving at more true math all the time.
The new collider will tell us even more.

One big difference between math and your "god".
If in math we discover something new. No harm no foul. We adjust Math to fit "truth".

Where new "truth" DESTROYS god. Don't believe me? Look for the Zeus worshippers. They were destroyed by better "truths"



Yes. Math people and non-religious people say "I don't know"
You say "I know."

Is there any doubt that you are the arrogant know-it-all?



Go back 3000 years and insert this:

Taking the miracles of our [Sun] for granted and instead wanting [the magic chariot] as proof of Apollos existence.



Who said it was easy?
You did. You said "god made it" Wow what an easy solution.

Lets try this:
Go back 600 years -
Tell you what, go create a [cure for the plague] if you think it's so easy.

Lots of people thought it was God making them sick for being bad worshippers. Turns out, it was a disease spread by fleas on rats.

Religion wrong again!


Ixtellor

P.S. *SWOOSH*

Originally Posted by stekim

Jesus would not have said that.

Originally Posted by catzmeow

However, you are voluntarily putting yourself in place as his public relations firm. Perhaps you should consider how he might want to be represented, since he seems silent on the matter.

Originally Posted by catzmeow

Typed the man sitting behind his human-created computer, passing words along a humanly-created internet connection, from inside his air conditioned (also human-invented) house (built by humans). This man was vaccinated, as a baby and a toddler, using human-created vaccines that prevented him from developing a host of ailments that used to routinely kill human babies before the age of three. He benefits from (human-created) indoor plumbing that spares him the ignomity of typhoid fever. If he gets sick or has an injury, he will drive his human-created car to the human-built hospital, where he will receive human-created measures that are likely to save his life.

Yeah.

I believe him.