It is true. When you look to anything to provide all the answers, you have taken a leap of faith, i.e. ignored logic. Science is not the source of all truth. Science only exists within the context of philosophy, from which it gains its value. It never has been a source of truth, only facts (observable phenomena) and explanations. Even facts aren't necessarily true, unless preceded with "I have observed that...". In this case, they are true, but only to the observer. Sharing facts with others then adds to the complexity of the claim: "I observed him claiming that he observed that...".

Science is the recognition that observations tend to be reliably consistent, and that certain people's claims also tend to be consistent (these are called "trustworthy"... and perhaps "sane"). It follows that one can model these observed patterns and make predictions. If any predictions turn out incorrect, that means the model of the patterns was not complete, and thus should be revised. Hence, the scientific method, which is itself only a formalization of the concept of science.

No one can answer this question, it is loaded.

But to answer it, I do believe in God and I am a practicing Catholic. For proof, I point you to Thomas Aquinas's Summa Theologica

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I totally think its possible to believe in "sky daddies" and be considered sane. The more and more we learn about the universe and everything in it, the more we realize that we don't know anything. For example, take the big bang theory. We are supposed to believe according to the big bang, that a bunch of dust and gas were densely packed into a single point and one day it all started to expand outward randomly. This notion of accepting theories and science in general is no more sane than accepting the concept of a God or multiple deities. Science can validate the belief in a God and can also deny the existence of said presence. But in the end it comes to whether or not you want to reduce existence to nothingness and random probability or you you can say that something else is the driving force behind the world and universe around us.

anyone can believe.. it takes a bit if spiritual journing to figure out its all crap..

not to me, no, but I understand why it has credibility to others. It is comforting to believe that there is someone out there watching out for you. It is comforting to believe that we don't just end.

I don't believe it, but sometimes it would be comforting to.

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I gave myself to Jesus, but now he never calls.

Eh, it's a gift. Or a curse.

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I gave myself to Jesus, but now he never calls.

I'm impressed that last comment I posted last night wasn't bad. I was wasted lol

Normally I write something drunk thinking I'm a genius, and the next day realize I was talking complete s**t.

True, and I refer to my previous intoxication and concede your point, it was also somewhat rash to throw around a word like "nothing".

But yeah, in mathematics you have a logical structure that isn't dependent on reality.

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Manu Chao - Bongo Bong

"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious." - Oscar Wilde

"Nothing doth more hurt in a state than that cunning men pass for wise." - Sir Francis Bacon

I like this guy.

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Manu Chao - Bongo Bong

"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious." - Oscar Wilde

"Nothing doth more hurt in a state than that cunning men pass for wise." - Sir Francis Bacon

Lobotomy maybe?=

The reason I made this thread was the same reason anyone here makes a thread. It was to have a discussion on the subject. If anyone's view is affected or someone learns something they didn't know, that's a bonus.
I was officially a Christian as a child. By the time I was able to think independently at around age 13 I became an atheist.
I have no doubt you are right. I just don't have the patience to cuddle people through the detox process. I wish I did.