Political Forum  

Go Back   Political Forum > Political Issues > Religion
The alternative to Faith The alternative to Faith
Register FAQ Members List Quizzes Radio and TV Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
Page 5 of 27 « First < 34 5 6715 > Last »
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #41 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2008, 07:41 AM
stekim's Avatar
stekim stekim is offline
Site Moderator
Guru
  
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 12,658
lithuania
stekim is a name known to allstekim is a name known to allstekim is a name known to allstekim is a name known to allstekim is a name known to allstekim is a name known to all
Credits: 48,592
Default
Quote:
Well then perhaps the Atheist should better define their philosophy.
The only thing atheists have in common is that they do not believe that God exists. Other than that there is no "atheist philosophy". Even those who believe in a God or Gods do not share a common philosophy. Seems odd to expect atheists to. Same with agnostics. Outside of, "I don't know if God exists or not" they don't share common philosophical traits.

Quote:
The Universe to them has no meaning and no purpose, only human rational thought has meaning and purpose.
To some maybe. To others not. Atheists are not Borg.

Quote:
Jew/Christian/Muslim/Buddhist/Hindu/Shinto

all incorporate humility into the tenents of their resepective beliefs.
I am quite aware of what Buddhists believe. I am one.
__________________
This space for rent.
Last edited by stekim; 04-11-2008 at 07:48 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #42 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2008, 07:52 AM
catzmeow's Avatar
catzmeow catzmeow is online now
Site Moderator
Guru
  
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Florida
Age: 42
Posts: 10,649
usa us florida
catzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant future
Credits: 54,849
Send a message via Yahoo to catzmeow
Default

The view from agnosticism.
__________________
I gave myself to Jesus, but now he never calls.
Reply With Quote
  #43 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2008, 07:53 AM
catzmeow's Avatar
catzmeow catzmeow is online now
Site Moderator
Guru
  
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Florida
Age: 42
Posts: 10,649
usa us florida
catzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant futurecatzmeow has a brilliant future
Credits: 54,849
Send a message via Yahoo to catzmeow
Default

(and one more view...)
__________________
I gave myself to Jesus, but now he never calls.
Reply With Quote
  #44 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2008, 08:10 AM
Qwerty's Avatar
Qwerty Qwerty is offline
Correspondent
  
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: La Winnipeg
Age: 100
Posts: 371
canada ca manitoba
Qwerty will become famous soon enoughQwerty will become famous soon enough
Credits: 1,392
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Herkdriver View Post
Well then perhaps the Atheist should better define their philosophy.
Maybe we should all group together and create a static dogma. We'll get together in buildings and praise these dogmas we created to control our life. Better yet, lets first understand that atheism is not a organized religion and we don't conform to a set of beliefs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Herkdriver View Post
The atheist thinks it all just randomly appeared out of the empty vacuum of space and the mathematical constants and precision of the Universe just randomly "showed up" along with it, and the miracle of life just "randomly" developed in a small sliver of infinite space...and human intelligence just "randomly" evolved out of a few deep water vents on the oceans' floor.
Here's another crazy thing I believe. The vacuum of space wasn't there either. The vacuum of space is something that can expand just like the matter/energy in the universe did.

Do I think it was random? Well actually, I don't have an answer for that. I have no clue how it all started. But I do believe there was no creation (out of nothing) of the universe, I rather lean towards a change in the unknown infinite. You can call that infinite God if you like. I wouldn't since I'm part of that infinite. What's the point in calling myself God?
Reply With Quote
  #45 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2008, 08:11 AM
Herkdriver's Avatar
Herkdriver Herkdriver is offline
Commentator
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
Posts: 1,228
usa
Herkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud of
Credits: 5,916
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by catzmeow View Post
The view from agnosticism.
Agnostocism is a far cry from Atheism

Agnostocism is really the most natural way to approach Faith of any sort.

Questioning.

I can't "see" God so why should I believe in Him or any other type of religion.

At the same time it doesn't entirely dismiss the idea either.

The problem I have with Agnostocism is that its the fence sitters.
Reply With Quote
  #46 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2008, 08:13 AM
JMS's Avatar
JMS JMS is offline
Guru
  
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: California
Posts: 3,381
usa us california
JMS is a splendid one to beholdJMS is a splendid one to beholdJMS is a splendid one to beholdJMS is a splendid one to beholdJMS is a splendid one to beholdJMS is a splendid one to beholdJMS is a splendid one to beholdJMS is a splendid one to behold
Credits: 13,604
Default
enjoy your view, herkdriver:

__________________
Remedial English - Rule #2:

Always check your answers against Google search results.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebellion View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by JMS View Post
"religion isnt unique to conservatives."

do you know what the above statement means? there is no "mostly unique;" thats like saying "sometimes always," its an oxymoron - its either one or the other.
You are incorrect, per google the phrase mostly unique comes up with over 3 million hits making the use of the phrase not so unique. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search
Reply With Quote
  #47 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2008, 08:13 AM
Herkdriver's Avatar
Herkdriver Herkdriver is offline
Commentator
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
Posts: 1,228
usa
Herkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud of
Credits: 5,916
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by stekim View Post
The only thing atheists have in common is that they do not believe that God exists. Other than that there is no "atheist philosophy". Even those who believe in a God or Gods do not share a common philosophy. Seems odd to expect atheists to. Same with agnostics. Outside of, "I don't know if God exists or not" they don't share common philosophical traits.



To some maybe. To others not. Atheists are not Borg.



I am quite aware of what Buddhists believe. I am one.
Dhammapada 63 Do nothing from selfishness or conceit, but in humility count others better than yourselves.

A Buddhist tenent.
Reply With Quote
  #48 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2008, 08:14 AM
Herkdriver's Avatar
Herkdriver Herkdriver is offline
Commentator
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
Posts: 1,228
usa
Herkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud ofHerkdriver has much to be proud of
Credits: 5,916
Default
[quote=JMS;488711]enjoy your view, herkdriver:

Hey if I'm wrong, I've lost nothing really.

If you're wrong?

Well God help you my friend.
Reply With Quote
  #49 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2008, 08:16 AM
JMS's Avatar
JMS JMS is offline
Guru
  
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: California
Posts: 3,381
usa us california
JMS is a splendid one to beholdJMS is a splendid one to beholdJMS is a splendid one to beholdJMS is a splendid one to beholdJMS is a splendid one to beholdJMS is a splendid one to beholdJMS is a splendid one to beholdJMS is a splendid one to behold
Credits: 13,604
Default
correction: if youre wrong, youve lost everything. lol
__________________
Remedial English - Rule #2:

Always check your answers against Google search results.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebellion View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by JMS View Post
"religion isnt unique to conservatives."

do you know what the above statement means? there is no "mostly unique;" thats like saying "sometimes always," its an oxymoron - its either one or the other.
You are incorrect, per google the phrase mostly unique comes up with over 3 million hits making the use of the phrase not so unique. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search
Reply With Quote
  #50 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2008, 08:22 AM
Rotaerk Rotaerk is offline
Contributor
  
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 92
Rotaerk will become famous soon enough
Credits: 854
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Herkdriver View Post
Agnostocism is a far cry from Atheism

Agnostocism is really the most natural way to approach Faith of any sort.

Questioning.

I can't "see" God so why should I believe in Him or any other type of religion.

At the same time it doesn't entirely dismiss the idea either.

The problem I have with Agnostocism is that its the fence sitters.
What's wrong with fence-sitting? That seems to be the most logical choice in a situation where you are uncertain. To pick one side of the fence would be arbitrary, so why do it?
Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 5 of 27 « First < 34 5 6715 > Last »

Bookmarks
Digg del.icio.us StumbleUpon Google Yahoo Furl Reddit

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

 
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
A Better Alternative JavaBlack Abortion 2 03-22-2007 07:11 PM
Life vs. Faith Force-of-the-Truth Religion 9 02-22-2007 10:16 AM
My Faith and My Politics ForceoftheTruth Religion 2 09-14-2006 12:05 PM
Alternative Energy ForceoftheTruth Political Opinions & Beliefs 6 05-29-2006 01:11 PM
Ye of Little Faith JavaBlack Religion 132 01-13-2006 05:25 PM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:24 AM.

Political Forum Index RSS Feeds - Contact Us - Political Forum Index - Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0 Release Candidate 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0
Template-Modifikationen durch TMS
vBCredits v1.3 ©2007 by Darkwaltz4