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The same could be said about Gremlins and leprechauns. I could make any claim to the supernatural as being a creator or higher life force. Philosophically speaking we can claim anything is possible, but probability is where the true definitions lie.
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Please explain to me how probability is where the true definition lies. And this is a philosophical discussion.
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It would be their interpretation whether they believed they had contact or not. Are we to take the word of everyone who claims to have spoken to god or been abducted by Aliens?
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Why be so quick to dismiss their interpretations? While they cannot provide evidence of their experiences, you cannot provide any against them. Why automatically assume they are wrong?
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There are many religious people who claim they have never interacted with god. There are many who spent their whole life trying to interact. Are you saying god only picks and choses. Also if my view is limited then since no one believes in every single god or supernatural being wouldn't everyone's view be limited according to your assertion?
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Yes they would be limiting. But, that is the nature of beliefs and faith, isn't it?
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In other words they believe in their god and the other gods are just different perceptions of their god.
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Some do. Beliefs are as varied as the individuals on earth. Some will only recognize their god and claim all others are false. Some recognize various gods as different aspects of one. Some recognize gods as specific and individual.
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So if anything is possible do you worship all religions and all gods and all other supernatural phenomenons? Or have you personally just chosen one?
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Personally, I don't believe in any god or religion. But I admit that they might exist.
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You are also forgetting the possibility that God does not exist. Which brings us all to a belief. Our own personal belief. Some wish to share their's, others keep their's private.
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I don't forget that god might not exist. And you're exactly right, it does come down to belief. And faith provides it's own subjective evidence to those that have it. Someone who believes in God will see evidence in all things; while those who do not believe will never see it.
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Yes and the more answers we find, the more questions we will have. Some feel all those questions need to be answered, immediately. With religion those questions are already answered. With science many of those questions will never be answered.
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Exactly, it's all subjective.
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So you feel we should all sit on the fence with this one and have no beliefs or non-beliefs?
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Of course not. We will always have beliefs one way or the other. And we should debate them often and with conviction. But we should be honest about it and not try to pass off assumptions and faith as concrete evidence.
This goes for both sides of the fence. That is something that atheists tend to overlook. It is their
belief that god does not exist.
05-11-2008, 11:05 AM
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