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Old 05-09-2008, 01:15 PM
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You're full of it.

The Universal Theory of Gravity.

THEORY.

Here's another THEORY of Gravity

http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn8631.html

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Respectfully,

You're full of it.

The Universal Theory of Gravity.

THEORY.
Respectfully, you don't understand what the word "theory" means in science. Look it up.
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Respectfully, you don't understand what the word "theory" means in science. Look it up.
The End of Cosmology.

The quickening expansion of the Universe will eventually pull galaxies apart faster than light, causing them to drop out of view.

This process eliminates reference points for measuring expansion and dilutes the distinctive products of the big bang to nothingness. In short, it erases all the signs that a big bang ever occurred.

No way to ever truly know the Origin...

Therefore it remains THEORY and conjecture.

and who the HELL are you tell me what I know or don't know

Theory vs. Hypothesis vs. Law

There is no LAW of Evolution...and certainly not Big Bang.

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Here's another THEORY of Gravity

http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn8631.html
Sorry, I posted before you posted the above.

Yep, there are many theories, or more precislely hypothesies, floating around regarding the ultimate nature of gravity.

All of them explain more than our current theory. And we know that our current theory doesn't explain everything. But none of the better explanations have yet been tested or can yet be tested. Until they áre tested or can be tested, and via their testing can be shown to explain more than our current theory, we have to stick with our current theory.

Why would you feel this was a problem?
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Organized religion does suck.

Scientists can suck just as much though.

I don't understand the need for a book and rituals to guide you. Why not just a belief in a God? Why the theatrics?

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The End of Cosmology.

The quickening expansion of the Universe will eventually pull galaxies apart faster than light, causing them to drop out of view.

This process eliminates reference points for measuring expansion and dilutes the distinctive products of the big bang to nothingness. In short, it erases all the signs that a big bang ever occurred.

No way to ever truly know the Origin...

Therefore it remains THEORY and conjecture.

and who the HELL are you tell me what I know or don't know
I, unlike apparently your own good self, am an educated person. And I'm not telling you what to think, but just trying to point out where you are clearly wrong.

The expansion of the Universe will not eventually "pull galaxies apart faster than light, causing them to drop out of view.". It has been doing this since galaxies formed.

As to it remaining a theory, yes, of course it is. The theory of electromagnetism which powers all your electrical appliances and the quantum theory which runs your computer, are also Theories. Just as the GPS system which you might use if you had a car, relies on Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity to work.

Please, get a clue.
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Sorry, I posted before you posted the above.

Yep, there are many theories, or more precislely hypothesies, floating around regarding the ultimate nature of gravity.

All of them explain more than our current theory. And we know that our current theory doesn't explain everything. But none of the better explanations have yet been tested or can yet be tested. Until they áre tested or can be tested, and via their testing can be shown to explain more than our current theory, we have to stick with our current theory.

Why would you feel this was a problem?
The scientist analyzes Nature as he or she finds it, never considers the Source.

The engineer makes something, then analyzes it. The thing simply obeys the laws of nature, for better or for worse.

Engineers solve practical problems.

The Big Bang, theory or fact, solves no real World problems, it's just a thumb in the eye of the Religious because Source is Never considered.
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Organized religion does suck.

Scientists can suck just as much though.

I don't understand the need for a book and rituals to guide you. Why not just a belief in a God? Why the theatrics?
Indeed, why the theatrics? Why believe in stuff for which there is no evidence? Why don't you believe in green vases currently orbiting some random star or planet?
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I, unlike apparently your own good self, am an educated person. And I'm not telling you what to think, but just trying to point out where you are clearly wrong.

The expansion of the Universe will not eventually "pull galaxies apart faster than light, causing them to drop out of view.". It has been doing this since galaxies formed.

As to it remaining a theory, yes, of course it is. The theory of electromagnetism which powers all your electrical appliances and the quantum theory which runs your computer, are also Theories. Just as the GPS system which you might use if you had a car, relies on Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity to work.

Please, get a clue.


GPS data is inconsistent with predictions from theory of relativity, it more closely resembles Lorentzian Relativity

The GPS system has been designed to use Lorentz synchronization.

I thought that was common knowledge?

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The expansion of the Universe will not eventually "pull galaxies apart faster than light, causing them to drop out of view.". It has been doing this since galaxies formed.
We just don't know about the ones that are gone. Science is limited to what we can observe, but we can propose theories that use mathematics to link what we can see to that which we can't.
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