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Also, this oft-posted story might prove enlightening. I've lost the original link, so I have to post it in its entirety, which will require several posts, but nonetheless...
I keep wondering, in what world, that story is "oft-posted."
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Like typing? I can understand how that would constitute "incredible mental contortions" to you.

ahhahahahahahahahahahahah. no.

Like suggesting that a 6 year old can consent and enjoy oral sex. Because, after all, their little tongues are developed, aren't they? And really, a penis is JUST LIKE a lolly. Only, ummmm, meat-flavoured.
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I keep wondering, in what world, that story is "oft-posted."
http://forums.youthrights.org/showthread.php?t=211
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Aren't we talking about Islamic countries here?
And African. But you brought up the argument that because THEIR laws and traditions are THEIR laws and traditions, it is wrong for outsiders to tamper. But, that is PRECISELY what happened in South Africa. Are you familiar with Nelson Mandela's story?

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Of course you can protest. Everyone has the right to protest, but you don't have the right to force these countries to change their traditions
Don't all human beings have the rights to the same things? OR only some of them?
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He obviously has good arguments though, because he's been arguing the subject for awhile now...
I don't know that I would agree that his arguments are good.

Repugnant, disturbing and more than a little frightening, yeah.

I'm still in here slugging it out, cause, quite honestly I've had lots and lots of up close and personal experience with people who believe as he claims to believe.
He can try and pretty it up all he wants too with arguments such as, letting children be more free, letting children experience pleasure
and of course, freeing adults and children from the hierarchical bonds placed on them by a repressive society.
As we say in my neck of the woods, that dog won't hunt.

There is hardly anything more soul killing and spirit damaging than molesting a child. And I don't give a rat's tiny bo-hiney if the child experiences some form of pleasure from it.
That's called biology.
It's still molestation and it's still damaging beyond belief.
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As we say in my neck of the woods, that dog won't hunt.
Did Cletus tell you that?
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There are humanitarian issues involved. It is more important that the oppressed citizenry of a country is benefitted than the brutal state which oppressed them.
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Why is that any more dangerous in matters of sexual interaction than in any other kind of interaction between a child and an adult? How does a child consenting to physically gratifying activity harm you in any way?
It harms the child. Children sexually experimenting with themselves and each other is not an abuse of power--although in the case of an older child with a younger child it may be.
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You don't think it is? I notice that neither you nor WInd has apparently read the articles I've linked in this thread:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...vory/ivory.htm



You realize that thanks to Aisha's example, women CANNOT BE RAPED under Islamic Law in Iran over the age of 9. That's because women can sexually consent at 9.

http://www.religiousintelligence.co....s/?NewsID=2767

A Moroccan Islamic theologian, Mohamed Ben Sheikh Abderrahman Al Maghraoui, has caused a great stir by stating "A nine-year-old girl has the same sexual capacities as a woman of 20 and over."
Read the article I provided that disputes the age that Aisha was at the consummation of her marriage--which IS on topic.

Start another thread about sexual abuse of children in Muslim countries and I will respond to that topic.

Your premise appears to be that Islam is inherently flawed as a religion because individuals misuse sacred teachings and Aisha's story to justify child abuse. Anyone doing so ought to be criticised, arrested and convicted of the crime of pedophilia or child molestation.

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It harms the child. Children sexually experimenting with themselves and each other is not an abuse of power--although in the case of an older child with a younger child it may be.
So describe to me the specific emotional trauma that is incurred by such a relationship.
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