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Old 06-05-2008, 09:18 PM
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Icon5 Abraham was willing to kill his own son. For what?

As a matter of record (if the bible is to be believed) Abraham was a child abuser. Yet three mainline religious groups have this guy as a leader/prophet/whatever?

How sick is that?

btw, what happened to Abe's son?

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As a matter of record (if the bible is to be believed) Abraham was a child abuser. Yet three mainline religious groups have this guy as a leader/prophet/whatever?

How sick is that?

btw, what happened to Abe's son?

I must create an avatar stating that Abraham was a child abuser. That is sure to raise the hackles of Christian people.
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As a matter of record (if the bible is to be believed) Abraham was a child abuser. Yet three mainline religious groups have this guy as a leader/prophet/whatever?

How sick is that?

btw, what happened to Abe's son?

*abraham was not child abuser
* in fact god want to test response of his messenger to his order , so god make ibraham dream that he would slaughter his son , then abraham obey his god and tell to his son his dream that he would slaughter hers , and his son reply obey your god , any way there was miracle happen in that time the knife
was not work then god descend scapegoat from haven in stead of his ibraham's son ,
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I've always found the binding od Isaac to be problematic, since what kind of loving God (*)(*)(*)(*)s with people like that? Seems pretty sick to get your jollies from forcing a mere mortal to go through with some mock ritual murder.

Of course, Muslims tell a slightly different story, but that's neither here nor there.
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The story of Abraham willing to sacrifice his son was kind of like a precursor to what God would be willing to do with his son in Jesus.

At least, that's what I think.
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I don't so much think Abraham was a child abuser so much as a madman. He did ultimately decide not to sacrifice his kid.
But he just listened to those voices in his head.

But if we're to take the bible at face value and assume those voices belonged to some psychotic patriarchal deity... I think God was the real child abuser, toying with his creation's emotions for no reason other than complete CONTROL.
That is the very definition of domestic abuse.

"You have to sacrifice your son because I SAY SO! And I'll (*)(*)(*)(*) you up if you don't!"
"Ummm... but..."
"(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)! Sacrfice your kid!"
"Ummm... OK... Just... Don't hit me again."
"Oh. Okay. Well since you're doing it, how about... you don't have to. Only because I'm so (*)(*)(*)(*)ing kind. Remember that, (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)!"
"Oh you're so good to me..."
"What, (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)?! Did I ask you to talk?!"

I really don't see why people worship that guy.
Jesus was certainly an improvement. I just don't get how people think they can be the same. Did they think he went through counseling?
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As a matter of record (if the bible is to be believed) Abraham was a child abuser. Yet three mainline religious groups have this guy as a leader/prophet/whatever?

How sick is that?

btw, what happened to Abe's son?

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"You have to sacrifice your son because I SAY SO! And I'll (*)(*)(*)(*) you up if you don't!"
"Ummm... but..."
"(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)! Sacrfice your kid!"
"Ummm... OK... Just... Don't hit me again."
"Oh. Okay. Well since you're doing it, how about... you don't have to. Only because I'm so (*)(*)(*)(*)ing kind. Remember that, (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)!"
"Oh you're so good to me..."
"What, (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)?! Did I ask you to talk?!"
does this text from the bible ?
and what you mean in stars * in this text ?
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does this text from the bible ?
I took the situation from the bible and placed it in a modern template for humor value and to accentuate the double standard between God's Old Testament behavior and the behavior of an abusive father/husband.
Most of the behaviors God shows in the Old Testament would be considered horrible in any person by a modern lens. Back in those days of patriarchal budding Judaism, that was the normal father figure.
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The stars are the result of the forum's profanity filter. The forum replaces bad words with stars.
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I must create an avatar stating that Abraham was a child abuser. That is sure to raise the hackles of Christian people.
I've done something similar. Forgot to save the image.

but I think a video: A mad man with a knife at a kid's throat as voices in his head scream for him to sacrifice the lamb as the kid screams...baaaaa, baaaaa---meaning paaaa paaaa. You see the kid has a cleft palette. Abraham is thinning the herd.

stupid? yes, as stupid as most religious tales.
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