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Old 06-11-2008, 01:59 AM
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From 1789 and 1801 during the French Revolution, the reactionary religious element of French society from destroyed, and although the tactics were brutal the result was astonding, France got a remarkable secular civil culture and the old regime was thoroughly destroyed, even to this day the secular culture of French politics is evident.

So, given the obvious, does America need a DeChristianization? I think it does.
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I don't think so.
I believe the world would be better off without religion, but religion is impossible to destroy and any method to attempt it creates worse problems.

A "deChristianization" would merely lead to a more fundamentalist Christianity and a lot of nasty violence... and for what? Overall realism wins over religion where it really counts.
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Eliminating Christianity is one of the first things communist and fascist dictators have done in the past.

No surprise you want to do the same.
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So, given the obvious, does America need a DeChristianization? I think it does.
I'd prefer that occur peacefully and gradually (as is currently the case), unlike the brutal French revolution. I don't think the French Revolution is a model for anything except chaos, bloodshed, and mayhem.

Look at the rest of Europe, which is even less Christian than France. No decapitations were required.
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Look at the rest of Europe, which is even less Christian than France.
And they're all socialists.

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From 1789 and 1801 during the French Revolution, the reactionary religious element of French society from destroyed, and although the tactics were brutal the result was astonding, France got a remarkable secular civil culture and the old regime was thoroughly destroyed, even to this day the secular culture of French politics is evident.

So, given the obvious, does America need a DeChristianization? I think it does.
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Look at the rest of Europe, which is even less Christian than France. No decapitations were required.
Well Eastern Europe was deChristianized during the socialist period.
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From 1789 and 1801 during the French Revolution, the reactionary religious element of French society from destroyed, and although the tactics were brutal the result was astonding, France got a remarkable secular civil culture and the old regime was thoroughly destroyed, even to this day the secular culture of French politics is evident.

So, given the obvious, does America need a DeChristianization? I think it does.
Here is what I have been talking about guys. Freedom of religion isn't in danger?
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Religion is fine. It's not hurting anyone. Except for homosexuals. And, no just homosexuals.
Anyway, socialism and communism aren't created by secularism. They use it as a means of achieving their end - despotism.
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Here is what I have been talking about guys. Freedom of religion isn't in danger?
One person saying something on an anonymous Internet forum means freedom of religion is endangered?
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