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07-15-2008, 07:34 AM
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Christian roots of America
In response to Katie I thought I'd start a new thread.
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In Boise we have a Cross on one of the surrounding foothills. Table Rock Cross Though they have been attacked by the ACLU, many towns have Crosses in their city crests. An example. Many government buildings have religious symbols/statues all over them. Our one dollar bill has "IN GOD WE TRUST". On the back of the dollar bill there is a image of the All-Seeing Eye which many think is exclusively a Masonic symbol, but it has been used as an emblem of God. Many oaths of office contain "So help me God", whether it is military or government. One of the most famous documents in history, written by the man who had a hand in our Constitution, had the following words: God, Creator, Divine Providence, and sacred. Many State Constitutions have some kind of reference towards God. My great State's Preamble says: We, the people of the State of Idaho, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings and promote our common welfare do establish this Constitution.
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07-15-2008, 07:40 AM
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Greek philosophy and Enlightenment thought are larger influences on the foundations of this country than Christianity. They explain the way Judeo-Christian ideals were interpreted for the purpose of building up this country... and how the deists involved could come to agreement with the more traditional Christians.
The concept of God used in most civil offices is a generic "God". The civil oaths do not contain Christ or any such specifically Christian connotations. The term "God" is a proxy that deists as well as Jews and Christians could identify with. And even athiests would recognize it as a generic concept.
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07-15-2008, 11:16 PM
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Religious freedom was a great accomplishment of our founding fathers. I'm not religious. I am an atheist. I still would defend anyones right to believe whatever it is that they do. The quote used is in reference to the founders seeing to it that the US was not founded on A meaning singular religion and allowed each person to espouse the deity of their shoice without fear. It is possible in America to not believe at all. My thanks goes out to those that believed in religious freedom.
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07-16-2008, 01:07 PM
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The whole BS comment is your opinion only.
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There shall ye find Light Be thou faithful unto Death And I will give thee a crown of Life I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. Oh cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
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07-16-2008, 01:10 PM
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There shall ye find Light Be thou faithful unto Death And I will give thee a crown of Life I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. Oh cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
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07-16-2008, 01:20 PM
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God is a pretty generic term. Are you referencing the CHRISTIAN GOD? Any god? Or, all gods? The oath before testimony in court can be sworn to any deity that is significant to the witness. See, you want to make this about YAHWEH. When, in actuality, this country has non-specific religious origins that draw heavenly from pagan influences of Greece and Rome.
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I'll get nicer when you get smarter. Last edited by catzmeow; 07-16-2008 at 01:22 PM.
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There shall ye find Light Be thou faithful unto Death And I will give thee a crown of Life I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. Oh cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
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07-16-2008, 01:58 PM
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You also have to obey every aspect of it. Wich means, no shaving, getting a hair cut, being gay, no sex before marriage etc. or else it is claerly BS.
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07-16-2008, 02:07 PM
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