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Since there are a few people on here who believe that the Bible is perfect, and without flaws, a few of the errors, absurdities, and contradictions in the bible:

GE 1:3-5, 14-19 There was light ("night and day") before there was a sun. (Note: If there were no sun, there would be no night or day. Also, light from the newly created heavenly bodies seems to have reached the earth instantaneously though it now takes thousands or millions of years.)

GE 1:12, 16 Plants began to grow before there was sunlight.

GE 4:17 Cain builds and populates a whole city in only two generations.

GE 6:4 There were giants on the earth at one time. (Note: No evidence exists to supports this assertion.)

GE 6:5 God is unhappy with the wickedness of man and decides to flood the earth to eliminate mankind. All living things including plants, animals, women and innocent children are also exterminated. (Note: This is like burning down a house to rid it of mice.)

GE 6:15 The size of Noah's Ark was such that there would be about one and a half cubic feet for each pair of the 2,000,000 to 5,000,000 species to be taken aboard.

GE 7:17-19 The flood covered the entire earth at the same time. (Note: There is no evidence of a worldwide flood, but rather of many, widespread, but local floods.)

GE 7:19-20 The flood covered the earth with water fifteen cubits (twenty plus feet) above the highest mountains.(Note: This would require steady, worldwide rainfall at the rate of about 6 inches per minute, 360 inches per hour, 8640 inches per day--for 40 days and nights--so as to cover the entire earth with an endless ocean 5 miles deep, thus burying 29,000 ft. Mt. Everest under 22 ft. of water. How did the author know the depth of the water? Did Noah take soundings? And where has all this water gone?)

GE 8:20 Noah's first recorded action following the flood is to sacrifice one of every clean animal and bird. (Since so few animals were saved, this could be considered rather wasteful and defeating--especially given that the stated purpose of taking the animals aboard the Ark was to keep them alive [GE 6:20]. To see a discussion of the various ways this verse can be interpreted, and in turn the different ways to approach the Bible generally, see addendum.)

GE 8:21 The odor of Noah's sacrifices was pleasing to the Lord.

GE 9:12-16 God first creates the rainbow. (Note: Apparently the laws having to do with refraction of light were null and void prior to this time.)

GE 30:37-43 Jacob alters the genetic characteristics of cattle by letting them view a striped rod. (Note: His purpose in doing so was to fleece Laban of his cattle.)

That's just in Genesis...for starters.

This is a book of mythology, and should be viewed as any other mythology is.
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Adam and Eve had three sons Cain Abel and Seth. Cain killed Abel leaving Cain and Seth. if these were the only people at the creation, How many children did Eve have? Who was the father of all those children? The story says to me incest was rampant. Scary thought. That is what the biblical story of creation says to me.
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GE 1:3-5, 14-19 There was light ("night and day") before there was a sun. (Note: If there were no sun, there would be no night or day. Also, light from the newly created heavenly bodies seems to have reached the earth instantaneously though it now takes thousands or millions of years.)


Night and Day for God who has his own way of tracking time.



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GE 1:12, 16 Plants began to grow before there was sunlight.
Perhaps they used other ways of producing energy.


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GE 4:17 Cain builds and populates a whole city in only two generations.
He liked to get busy what can you say.

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GE 6:4 There were giants on the earth at one time. (Note: No evidence exists to supports this assertion.)
No evidence yet, there is no skeleton evidence for the missing link as well.

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GE 6:5 God is unhappy with the wickedness of man and decides to flood the earth to eliminate mankind. All living things including plants, animals, women and innocent children are also exterminated. (Note: This is like burning down a house to rid it of mice.)
What exactly is wrong with this?

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GE 6:15 The size of Noah's Ark was such that there would be about one and a half cubic feet for each pair of the 2,000,000 to 5,000,000 species to be taken aboard.
It was a local flood and by animals they mean what ever animals were in that region.

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GE 7:17-19 The flood covered the entire earth at the same time. (Note: There is no evidence of a worldwide flood, but rather of many, widespread, but local floods.)
Again its a bad interpetation.

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GE 7:19-20 The flood covered the earth with water fifteen cubits (twenty plus feet) above the highest mountains.(Note: This would require steady, worldwide rainfall at the rate of about 6 inches per minute, 360 inches per hour, 8640 inches per day--for 40 days and nights--so as to cover the entire earth with an endless ocean 5 miles deep, thus burying 29,000 ft. Mt. Everest under 22 ft. of water. How did the author know the depth of the water? Did Noah take soundings? And where has all this water gone?)
Again they are talking about a local flood.

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GE 8:20 Noah's first recorded action following the flood is to sacrifice one of every clean animal and bird. (Since so few animals were saved, this could be considered rather wasteful and defeating--especially given that the stated purpose of taking the animals aboard the Ark was to keep them alive [GE 6:20]. To see a discussion of the various ways this verse can be interpreted, and in turn the different ways to approach the Bible generally, see addendum.)
A sacrifice that is painful is more important.

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GE 8:21 The odor of Noah's sacrifices was pleasing to the Lord.
So?

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GE 9:12-16 God first creates the rainbow. (Note: Apparently the laws having to do with refraction of light were null and void prior to this time.)
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This is a book of mythology, and should be viewed as any other mythology is.
It should be viewed through the language it was written in. Its like 5th graders reading Shakespeare and missing the entire point.
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Adam and Eve had three sons Cain Abel and Seth. Cain killed Abel leaving Cain and Seth. if these were the only people at the creation, How many children did Eve have? Who was the father of all those children? The story says to me incest was rampant. Scary thought. That is what the biblical story of creation says to me.
Of course based on the story put forth in Genesis incest would have needed to occur. Based on the story of evolution incest would have had to occur also, is that a scary thought also?
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Catz - God is Light - the sun and the moon were put in place to mark time.

If you read farther you will find that based on the Bible man lived to be 900+ years old - after the flood the lifespan decreased.
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Of course based on the story put forth in Genesis incest would have needed to occur. Based on the story of evolution incest would have had to occur also, is that a scary thought also?
In evolution that is not necessarily so. Many cells of the same type could have been spawned in the RNA World setting. There need not have been only two. See RNA posts in Debunking Creationism for all the sites that tell about this possibility. I will repost all of them if you want let me know.

In the biblical account there is no other way except for incest.
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Night and Day for God who has his own way of tracking time.
Already You are making an assumption that you expect me believe. Show me how he tells time. Don't just expect me to believe that he is all it and tells time by a godly watch.
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In fairness, Genesis is the book of Jewish adaptions of Sumerian Myth. The Ark itself was the product of Sumerian myth (which made more sense because the God who wanted to kill everyone was a different being from the one who wanted to save humanity).

Most of the other books are Hebrew history. While these were told word of mouth for centuries before being written and were obviously subject to the phone-game effect, plus obviously hyped up... I think at least the broad events are more historically accurate.
To the ancient Sumerians, I think Mesopotamia = the world, so a flood there would be a flooded world.
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That's just in Genesis...for starters.

This is a book of mythology, and should be viewed as any other mythology is.

What brought all this on??????



Do you mean that the entire Bible is a book of mythology or do you mean Genesis specifically?
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In evolution that is not necessarily so. Many cells of the same type could have been spawned in the RNA World setting. There need not have been only two. See RNA posts in Debunking Creationism for all the sites that tell about this possibility. I will repost all of them if you want let me know.

In the biblical account there is no other way except for incest.
So you are saying that all (or alot of) creatures that evolved into humans did so at the same time thus preventing incest? Sounds realistic. No humans then "Bam" 14 humans 7 male and 7 female.
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