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Old 07-21-2008, 12:45 PM
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I didn't avoid the question, i answered it
Why are you working so hard to avoid answering such a simple question?

You know I didn't mean did he exist in the historical sense, and yes I know there was a St. Nicholas. That is not the question. Stop the game playing and answer.

Do you seriously entertain the notion that Santa, a guy who flies in a sleigh around each Christmas delivering toys, exists?

You're really having trouble giving an honest answer. I wonder why?

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Why are you working so hard to avoid answering such a simple question?

You know I didn't mean did he exist in the historical sense.

Do you seriously entertain the notion that Santa, a guy who flies in a sleigh around each Christmas delivering toys, exists?

You're really having trouble giving an honest answer. I wonder why?
Saint nicolas existed. That's the basis for the believe. He does not however ride around each christmas delivering toys. That's something Coca-Cola thought up. I answered your question, you just didn't expect that it was a real person, deal with it!
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Saint nicolas existed. That's the basis for the believe. He does not however ride around each christmas delivering toys. That's something Coca-Cola thought up. I answered your question, you just didn't expect that it was a real person, deal with it!
That there was a real St Nicholas is a well known fact, and is beside the point and you know it. Why are you being so dishonest here?

So you can rule out that Santa doesn't fly around in a sleigh delivering toys? What evidence can you provide on this? (Coca Cola was not the origin of that part of the story.) According to you if you can't prove it to be false you can't rule it out. Is it false, or do you seriously entertain the notion that Santa flies around in a sleigh delivering toys?

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Old 07-21-2008, 12:55 PM
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That there was a real St Nicholas is a well known fact, and is beside the point and you know it. Why are you being so dishonest here?

So you can rule out that Santa doesn't fly around in a sleigh delivering toys? What evidence can you provide on this? (Coca Cola was not the origin of that part of the story.) According to you if you can't prove it to be false you can't rule it out. Is it false, or do you seriously entertain the notion that Santa flies around in a sleigh delivering toys?
it is known who invented that part of the story, therefore it is known that it is made up! It is also known that Saint Nicholas did not ride a sled.

sorry mate, you really took the wrong example for this.
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it is known who invented that part of the story, therefore it is known that it is made up! It is also known that Saint Nicholas did not ride a sled.

sorry mate, you really took the wrong example for this.
Can you prove that it is made up? Who made it up? It wasn't Coca Cola. If you can't prove it's made up, according to you you can't rule out that it might be true.

Do you seriously entertain the notion that Santa flies in a sleigh, and delivers toys?

You're disproving your own idea here. Quit playing games, and give an honest answer.

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Can you prove that it is made up? Who made it up? It wasn't Coca Cola. If you can't prove it's made up, according to you you can't rule out that it might be true.

Do you seriously entertain the notion that Santa flies in a sleigh, and delivers toys?

You're disproving your own idea here. Quit playing games, and give an honest answer.
doesn't matter if he can fly, he exists. And that's the bottom line. God may or may not exist. If he does exist, he may or may not be able to part the seas That's a different discussion altogether.
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Hello Justice Strike? Where are you? Since you played so many intellectually dishonest games with the first example. Let's try a second example.

Do you seriously entertain the notion that leprechauns exist? Really?

Will it result in more of your game playing, or just ignoring the thread because you know you've been proven wrong here?
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There are an infinite number of "things" that "could" exist....green fairies who dance on your pillow while you sleep.....tiny fat men in pink tutu's who live in our mattresses....the flying spaghetti monster....tooth fairy....jack frost...purple people eaters and so on.

The truth is that we dont believe these things to be real because no evidence exists to show they DO. If a great deal of people got behind even just ONE of those ideals and claimed to believe in it...then all the sudden just by sheer mob mentality it all the sudden becomes "valid" and "worthy of belief" even though not a shred of evidence exists.

If a belief in something like this is held by a very small number of people...they are viewed as looney and possibly mentally ill. If a large number of people believe, then its sacred. But when you boil it down, believing in purple people eaters is no more looney than believing in a creator or god. Neither has ANY evidence to back it up, the only difference is in the amount of people who "believe".
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doesn't matter if he can fly, he exists. And that's the bottom line. God may or may not exist. If he does exist, he may or may not be able to part the seas That's a different discussion altogether.
Can you disprove that there is a Santa that flies? If not, then according to you, you can't rule it out.

Do you seriously entertain the notion that there is a Santa that flies and delivers toys?

If you don't then your theory is wrong.

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You may be religious or atheist, but we are all theorists. None of us can prove what we say about our religious or non-religious beliefs. I suppose we may all find out when we die.
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