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Originally Posted by orbamn
That is your personal belief, but there are plenty of people will tell you if you don't believe in their specific religion, and their specific version of their religion, you're going to hell.
I say: An all powerful God wouldn't need to hide his existence, nor would he care if people worshiped him or not.
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Originally Posted by orbamn
I regret that you don't know the peace of doing good for the sake of goodness, rather than just doing it because you are afraid that you're going to be sent to hell if you don't.
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You completely disregarded what I said. It is possible to believe in a creator without subscribing to a religion - that isn't a personal belief - it's fact. It's also ok to be Cristian and have your own beliefs and interpretations. Only the extremists believe anyone who doesn't subscribe to their religion will go to hell.
And actually it is looked down upon in most faiths to do good in hopes of getting in good with the creator. That was a device created by organized religion to control society. Religion should teach doing good for the sake of doing good but obviously that doesn't happen. It also doesn't happen outside of religion. People do good for the sole purpose of recognition and reward all the time - it's nothing exclusive to religion.
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Deism is the belief that a supreme god exists and created the physical universe, but does not intervene in its normal operation. It is related to a religious philosophy and movement that claims to derive the existence and nature of God from reason. It takes no position on what God may do outside the universe. That is in contrast to fideism which is found in many forms of Christianity, Islamic and Judaic teachings, which hold that religion relies on revelation in sacred scriptures or the testimony of other people as well as reasoning.
Deists typically reject most supernatural events (prophecy, miracles) and tend to assert that God does not intervene with the affairs of human life and the natural laws of the universe. What organized religions see as divine revelation and holy books, most deists see as interpretations made by other humans, rather than as authoritative sources. Deists believe that God's greatest gift to humanity is not religion, but the ability to reason.
Deism became prominent in the 17th and 18th centuries during the Age of Enlightenment, especially in the United Kingdom, France and the United States, mostly among those raised as Christians who found they could not believe in either a triune God, the divinity of Jesus, miracles, or the inerrancy of scriptures, but who did believe in one god.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deist
I didn't choose this description, someone introduced it to me after I described my beliefs.
08-07-2008, 10:42 PM
I was an Agnostic Atheist for many years because of my feelings towards organized religion. I believe it has done caused nothing but trouble (for the most part) since its inception. I say extremist because not all religious people lack logic or reasoning. You won't hear these peoples voice though because they don't feel the need to spread their religion and force their beliefs onto anyone else. I could use an argument against Atheists that they are all godless hippies with no morals - but I know that would be a blanket statement and doesn't apply to the majority of Atheists. Just as everyone that has religion doesn't believe that anyone that doesn't believe in their specific religion will go to hell. 
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