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And now those that distort religion for their own ends, from the terrorists to Bush/McCain, are tearing them down.
You don't think those people could find other things to distort?

It's not religion that's the problem, its the people who misuse it. Believing that God wants you to kill thousands of innocent people is not a Religion, its a Cult.

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I don't think it is the religion that is tearing anything down. It seems to me to be more the way it is manipulated to say what you want it to say. It is used to represent so many points of view.
Religion becomes a football and this "god" is like trump. If I play god on you I have proven myself right.

From what i know about god, i don't get the impression that he wants us running around killing each other and hating each other.

It's the people that use the bible to hide or distort facts that destroy civilization.
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And now those that distort religion for their own ends, from the terrorists to Bush/McCain, are tearing them down.
I love how the Left tries to tear down Republicans to the levels of terrorists just because they don't agree with their ideals. Quite sad. It turned from religion is tearing down society to Republicans such as Bush are.
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I don't think it is the religion that is tearing anything down. It seems to me to be more the way it is manipulated to say what you want it to say. It is used to represent so many points of view.
Religion becomes a football and this "god" is like trump. If I play god on you I have proven myself right.

From what i know about god, i don't get the impression that he wants us running around killing each other and hating each other.

It's the people that use the bible to hide or distort facts that destroy civilization.
You are right katiegrrl, it is not the religion, it is the crackpots that distort religion for their own ends.
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I love how the Left tries to tear down Republicans to the levels of terrorists just because they don't agree with their ideals. Quite sad.

I don't condone terrorism on either side, no matter who's God it is supposedly carried out under. That's my point.

Are these tactics that God would bless?



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You are right katiegrrl, it is not the religion, it is the crackpots that distort religion for their own ends.
IMO when they get together they make a problem because they can distort the process because of their religious view being set into motion in the political circle. It makes thing very bad. Separation of church and state is corretly the answer. Yet when the people that hold the power in a given country have distorted religious views and support they can bring a country to it's knees.
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IMO when they get together they make a problem because they can distort the process because of their religious view being set into motion in the political circle. It makes thing very bad. Separation of church and state is corretly the answer. Yet when the people that hold the power in a given country have distorted religious views and support they can bring a country to it's knees.
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First, let me state for the record that I am agnostic, I simply believe that we cannot, and don not know what is out there (Religiously speaking), so we cannot form any types of organized religion.
not all religionists believe in a GOD.

for example, there are portions of buddhists who are atheist and/or agnostic towards an ultimate GOD, yet are religious nonetheless, believing in an afterlife.
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not all religionists believe in a GOD.

for example, there are portions of buddhists who are atheist and/or agnostic towards an ultimate GOD, yet are religious nonetheless, believing in an afterlife.
I believe in an afterlife, but I have no religion. Does the fact I believe in an afterlife mean I do have a religion but don't realise it?
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I believe in an afterlife, but I have no religion. Does the fact I believe in an afterlife mean I do have a religion but don't realise it?
this may depend on how we define religion, but such may be the case.
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this may depend on how we define religion, but such may be the case.
So I might have a religion after all? I don't believe in a God though, just an afterlife.
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