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Old 07-30-2008, 05:48 AM
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if you guys are so sure about the existence of heaven, why are you all just as careful as the common atheist when it comes to avoiding death? why arent you guys out doing the most dangerous stuff you can think of to speed up the process and go right to the happiest place in the universe? if not actively putting yourself at risk, id think youd at least not be so cautious...
So, Christians ought to commit suicide? I don't think that'd be God's idea of dyin' to get into Heaven! But maybe I'm wrong!
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Well that is what the Muslims allegedly did on September 11, they got to meet their 72 virgins or whatever it is...

But these Bali bombers, they are about to be executed for their part in the October 12 2002 bombings and they want to die and be Matyrs, and we are going to give that to them! Let them rot I say, deny them the 72 virgins!
72 virgins????? Yikes!!!!! Why 72 whiny virgins when one ought to be able to opt for 72 ladies of the evening?????
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"Do not tempt the Lord thy God". It's in there somewhere. I remember it.
I think that one comes from the story where Jesus undergoes the temptation while in the desert.
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if you guys are so sure about the existence of heaven, why are you all just as careful as the common atheist when it comes to avoiding death? why arent you guys out doing the most dangerous stuff you can think of to speed up the process and go right to the happiest place in the universe? if not actively putting yourself at risk, id think youd at least not be so cautious...
Maybe some Christians aren't interested in speeding up the process because they know they deserve to catch Hell when they meet their Maker. So, that day is approached with fear and dread as if it's a thing best avoided.
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if you guys are so sure about the existence of heaven, why are you all just as careful as the common atheist when it comes to avoiding death? why arent you guys out doing the most dangerous stuff you can think of to speed up the process and go right to the happiest place in the universe? if not actively putting yourself at risk, id think youd at least not be so cautious...
Because we do not view the earth as some sort of doctor's office waitiong room. We are here to do work for our lord. Its hard to do work if you are dead!
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If the believers struggle with the idea of their worthiness to attain heaven doesn't that say something about a god you put your faith in? i am being serious not sarcastic.
Not at all! We know we fall short of being "good enough" to make the cut on our own, but Jesus came as an advocate for us and through him we can make the grade. Our acknowledging that we are flawed is part of the process of becoming saved!
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Not at all! We know we fall short of being "good enough" to make the cut on our own, but Jesus came as an advocate for us and through him we can make the grade. Our acknowledging that we are flawed is part of the process of becoming saved!
I struggle with the concept that you need a lawyer (advocate) to reach a god that says he loves you without conditions. It seems to me that he places many conditions on it.
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