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if you guys are so sure about the existence of heaven, why are you all just as careful as the common atheist when it comes to avoiding death? why arent you guys out doing the most dangerous stuff you can think of to speed up the process and go right to the happiest place in the universe? if not actively putting yourself at risk, id think youd at least not be so cautious...
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Hehe, good question. If it's so good, why not go there right now?
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Yeah thats true why aren't you doing all the really crazy things. You could be living on the edge.

You know that kind of fits human bombings. I don't see the guy that sent you to myrtar yourself out myrtaring himself. Okay go kill yourself for god.
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Well that is what the Muslims allegedly did on September 11, they got to meet their 72 virgins or whatever it is...

But these Bali bombers, they are about to be executed for their part in the October 12 2002 bombings and they want to die and be Matyrs, and we are going to give that to them! Let them rot I say, deny them the 72 virgins!
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Well that is what the Muslims allegedly did on September 11, they got to meet their 72 virgins or whatever it is...

But these Bali bombers, they are about to be executed for their part in the October 12 2002 bombings and they want to die and be Matyrs, and we are going to give that to them! Let them rot I say, deny them the 72 virgins!
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"Do not tempt the Lord thy God". It's in there somewhere. I remember it.
You're not supposed to do crazy stuff just because you think God will save you. It has to have a purpose. Also suicide is largely prohibited by Christian beliefs... and this would be gray suicide.

Furthermore I think Christians are supposed to have aresponsibility to stick around and do good works and lead by example... although this has popularly been replaced with running around proselytizing... which was always part of it- but certainly modern Christians have largely dismissed good works as nonessential.

So I think a better question would be aimed at those Christians not doing good works and leading by example.
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"Do not tempt the Lord thy God". It's in there somewhere. I remember it.
You're not supposed to do crazy stuff just because you think God will save you. It has to have a purpose. Also suicide is largely prohibited by Christian beliefs... and this would be gray suicide.

Furthermore I think Christians are supposed to have aresponsibility to stick around and do good works and lead by example... although this has popularly been replaced with running around proselytizing... which was always part of it- but certainly modern Christians have largely dismissed good works as nonessential.

So I think a better question would be aimed at those Christians not doing good works and leading by example.

je consens, the Pope h e is rich. you dont see him stop the war.
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Faith can do that to people.
Misguided faith can do that to people. Blind faith without reasoning can do that. The mistake is to lump all people of faith together with that minority of faith adherents who check their brains at the door.

Faith can also bring out the best in some people. Faith and devotion are qualities that are worth cultivating IMO.

I'm not talking about faith in the 72 virgin theory. Faith means a whole different thing to me than to a Christian or a Muslim.
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As Ben Franklin once said,

"All Christians talk of the glory of Heaven, but I've yet to meet a single one in a hurry to get there".
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