1. If you're Muslim you may have a Doctrinal problem relating TO the other two:

[al-Ma'idah 5:51.8] O ye who believe! Take Not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.

The Koran's opponents/enemies, unlike the OT, are still alive; Christians and Jews, and there are many other Hostile verses as well.


2. If you Choose to be a Muslim.. you should know...you don't really want to be then changing again, since 'Apostasy' is a Capital Crime in Islam and carried out in some Muslim countries.

3. The vast Majority of Christians and Jews are Secular.. while in Islam.. Much less-to-not so.

ex from Manji: (Whose life is in Danger)
'Denial is Scourge of Islam'

http://www.muslim-refusenik.com/news...-05-08-22.html

"...the trouble with Islam today is that Literalism is Mainstream.

Even Moderate Muslims take the Koran as the final word of God: unfiltered, unchanged and unchangeable.
This Supremacy complex inhibits us from asking hard questions about what happens when faith becomes dogma.
Such a path can lead only to a dead end of more Violence..."

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It's of course true that all 3 of these Abrahamic religions are violent and intolerant, but the teachings of the chief writings of Judaism seem to be particularly savage, intolerant, racist, and uncivilized.

Unforunately Jews are taught to hate Christians, hate Gentiles, lie, deceive, rob, and murder from their Talmud. Here are a just a few examples:

Only Jews are humans. [Gentiles] are animals.

For murder, whether of a Cuthean [Gentile] by a Cuthean, or of an Israelite by a Cuthean, punishment is incurred; but of a Cuthean by an Israelite, there is no death penalty.

Even the best of [Gentiles] should be killed.

If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should to a city where he is not known and do evil there.

If a heathen [Gentile] hits a Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is hitting God.

If a Jew finds an object lost by a Gentile it does not have to be returned.

What a Jew obtains by theft from a Gentile he may keep.

Jews may use lies to circumvent a Gentile.

All Gentile children are animals.

Jesus is raised from the dead and being punished in boiling hot semen. Those who mock the words of the Jewish sages and sin against Israel are boiled in hot excrement.


Unfortuantely this kind of visceral hatred of everything Christian and everything Gentile may go a long way in explaining some of the anti-Semitism which has occured in virtually every society in which Jews have stepped foot on.

The above post the usual KnowledgeLess hate speech from would-be fraudulent group 'jewish defense league' leader!

Yes, the person who gratuitously threw in 'Jesus boiling in oil' (and "Look Shlomo" and "Disloyal Jews) fancies himself not just a non-anti-semite, but a Jewish defender!
Just like his deluded Leisure-Suit Leader "who just hates zionists".

Then of course this this string:

Jews are Not taught to hate Christians.

As someone who got a Jewish education, I can attest to this.

Nor, like 90% of Jews, Have I even seen a Talmud! The obscure 'second book'.
Unlike in Islam where Virtually Every Muslim has see the Koran and it's Inolerant verses, and a great many are literalists. (see above)
So it's Not nearly the same for Christians and Jews as it is For Muslims.

It's only in the last 10 years have I seen this crap posted by anti-semites of various stripe and on Message boards.; especially, but not limited to Anti-semite and Muslim ones.

Since there's obviously nothing the Jews Holy book/Torah about later derivative religions Christianity and Islam, he was Reduced to the above out of Context Talmud quotes.

Too bad for Muslims and the Planet though, Islam's Holy Book was made up later by a frustrated with non-converted Christians and Jews... 'prophet'.

Sites that contain the (Unsourced) quotes above
are usually like Tim's buddie's, sites ie "not really a racist" David Duke.

If anyone is really interested in this Obscure document, rather than pasting up Crap, there is a website Made just for/to answer posters like Tim:

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/exp.html

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LMAO

Did I read what you just said right? Surely you're not accusing me of hate speech for hateful verses from the Jewish Talmud.

All I have done is post verses from the Jewish Talmud, does it make me a racist for posting hateful passages?

i.beletesri, I think there can be a better understanding between your people and mine and Christians and the rest of the world. This should begin with more Jews standing up and condemning the hateful vulgarities of their religion.

I have always said that Islam is not good and the Koran is a holy book that has too much violence for my tastes. Now you must do the same.

When your religion teaches you to lie, steal, cheat, murder, hate, rob, and deceive non-Jews, than there's something seriously wrong and backward about your religion.

Also, please back up your statistic that "90% of Jews" have never seen a Talmud. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here and allowing you to back this statistic up. Unfortunately, if you don't, I truly hope that this tendency of lying on your part doesn't come from your religion which as demonstrated above encourages lying and deception.

So now the Head/Only-member of the 'JDL' intimates Judaism encourages Lying and Deception. :^)

Talk about 'Deception' (and the Aryan 'Big Lie).
The LONELY head of the 'JDL' Dissing the 'J' !!!


Oh yeah.. back up ...

".....In a recent poll, 84% of Israeli Jews reported they had Never read Any of it [the Talmud].
The reason is simple: the text is dauntingly complex...

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...966474,00.html

And Israeli Jews read Hebrew!
One can only imagine how many FEWER American Jews Have read it.
I'd say DEAD ON/Remarkable estimate with '90%'.

That was Sweeeeeeeeet! and a Tough one to find a Stat on too!
Even shifting the difficult burden didn't work for Iran-Indoctrinated poster.

Jew-Bashing by Tim above CRUSHED by Facts AGAIN.

(prepare for the usual last-wording)

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It's like this. Growing up, I always thought the three main religions were completely diffrent (diffrent god, diffrent prophets), I was shocked after studying them, and learning they were basically the same.

Depends. Some believe Buddah was a wise man, who founded a temple of meditation, while others (I think it's mostly Bahis) believe he was a prophet. In that version of his story, the similarities between him and christ are staggering.

As for hinduism, there are some similarities, but for the most part, it is a diffrent set of beliefs.

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LOL

So you lied again? What part of your backside did you pull the 90% number out of? And you said "Jews" in your original post, not "Israeli Jews". Did your learn your tendency to lie and exaggerate from your religion too?

Jews are a great people and a talented race, but your religion is particularly vile and hateful, even compared to the other 2 Abrahamic religions. I'm seeing a great tendency on your part toward deception, exaggeration, and lying. I can only hope that you're not acquiring these traits from your backward holy books.

When your religion teaches you to lie, steal, cheat, murder, hate, rob, and deceive non-Jews, than there's something seriously wrong and backward about your religion.

p.s. Either show us the 90% statistic or admit to your lie.

I think this is illustrating the same kind of silliness as when people say that Muslims are evil because of stuff in their scriptures.
Religionists selectively read and apply scripture. Most do not stick with stupid things like "kill the infidel/gentile/heathen".

And when they do, it is not because of scripture.
Why did the Hebrews kill the Canaanites and blame it on God? It was convenient.
Why do Muslim terrorists attack "infidels" to vent the frustrations? Convenient target.
And for the icing, look at the history of Christians... There are no scriptures telling Christians to kill others or treat non-Christians as subhuman... but they have at various times in history! Why? Because it was convenient.

Religion does not spur behavior. It rationalizes it.
In any religion some cuckoo will decide it's time to kill or to enslave or to "take back the country". He'll find some scripture either explicit, implicit, or utterly twisted... and back it up.
Then because of religious identity, a lot of people will feel that they cannot fight and even may have to defend the cuckoo!

Religion for the most part bends toward convenience... then there are the fanatics who try to go against the grain, often violently (less so in a modern society) to stir up the pot.

How many Jews actually think gentiles are inferior in practice? How many would kill a gentile to vent?
How many Muslims would kill infidels for God's glory rather than take "jihad" in a less literal sense.

Compared to the numbers... very few.
The only problem is that, thanks to religious identity, many people will justify or play down such actions when they occur.

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Come on Tim, that's ludicrous.

Most those quotes you took from the "Jewish Talmud" are omitted from modern day Jewish teaches, they're absolutely misleading, they spread unreasonable hatred against Jews, and it's a tad underhanded coming from an someone whose own country is notoriously accused of equipping insane Jihad terrorists in the Middle East, talk about promoting hatred. I'm not anti-Iranian, but I find it deceitful of you to be painting the Jews as awful people when in fact they aren't, none of my Jewish friends have slaughtered me yet and I'm most certainly a Christian "gentile" in their eyes.

Those quotes you've posted depicting Jews as hateful religionists have been addressed and proven deceptive:

also..

Be my guest and please believe what you want, continue to think Jews are hateful, racist, and anti-gentile I don't care, but do not spread lies about it on a public forum. You're clearly just attempting to spread unwarranted hatred of Jews.

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