Religion is evil - Page 12

ReformIsDire · #**111** (**permalink**) 10-19-2007, 07:32 AM

Religious followers argue that god must exist because they cannot muster the concept of the universe always existed. To ask a question to the religious followers in the same perspective, where did god come from? and if the answer is he was always there, then one must be able to understand the ever existing universe.

rwking · #**112** (**permalink**) 10-23-2007, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ReformIsDire";p=&quot

Religious followers argue that god must exist because they cannot muster the concept of the universe always existed. To ask a question to the religious followers in the same perspective, where did god come from? and if the answer is he was always there, then one must be able to understand the ever existing universe.

I see your point, however simply accepting that "it always existed" seems to be taking the easy way out. Don't you ever wonder how the universe was formed? I mean, it is our experience that "matter cannot be created or destroyed", right? So one might think that the universe has always been in existence. But, before we were here to discover these laws of physics, who's to say that they always held true? This kinda sounds crazy I know, but much of philosophy does.

We can only account for what we experience, so simply stating that it always existed, doesn't exactly cut it. I mean... says who, right?? The only way we will likely ever figure out how the universe was formed, or where the matter initially came from - if it was created, is if a really smart alien or a god come to visit us.

I mean, people will tell you they "know" what happened. God created the heavens and the earth... blah blah. I'm not belittling their religion at all, but that's not "really" knowing... it's believing. Different animals.

So yeah, my point is I think accepting anything without continued investigation is just an easy out. I think we should always consider new theories and never rule out old ones.

ReformIsDire · #**113** (**permalink**) 10-23-2007, 06:43 AM

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I see your point, however simply accepting that "it always existed" seems to be taking the easy way out. Don't you ever wonder how the universe was formed? I mean, it is our experience that "matter cannot be created or destroyed", right? So one might think that the universe has always been in existence. But, before we were here to discover these laws of physics, who's to say that they always held true? This kinda sounds crazy I know, but much of philosophy does.  

We can only account for what we experience, so simply stating that it always existed, doesn't exactly cut it. I mean... says who, right?? The only way we will likely ever figure out how the universe was formed, or where the matter initially came from - if it was created, is if a really smart alien or a god come to visit us. 

I mean, people will tell you they "know" what happened. God created the heavens and the earth... blah blah. I'm not belittling their religion at all, but that's not "really" knowing... it's believing. Different animals. 

So yeah, my point is I think accepting anything without continued investigation is just an easy out. I think we should always consider new theories and never rule out old ones.

Just eight words that explains it all, atlest i have proof that the universe exists.

rwking · #**114** (**permalink**) 10-23-2007, 06:54 AM

Well, atleast isn't a word.

It's "at least." So, that would be 9 words.

But still, I don't see your point. What are you trying to say?

greatamerican128 · #**115** (**permalink**) 10-23-2007, 01:16 PM

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Quote Time!

1) "I have recently been examining all the known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition [Christianity] one redeeming feature. They are all alike, founded upon fables and mythologies." Thomas Jefferson

2) "Religious creeds encourage some of the craziest kinds of thoughts, emotions, and behaviors and favor severe manifestations of neurosis, borderline personality states, and sometimes even psychosis." Albert Ellis

3) "There was a time when religion ruled the world. It is known as the Dark Ages."
Ruth Hurmence Green

OK Komrad Marx.

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The Bible is the best of all books, for it is the word of God and teaches us the way to be happy in this world and in the next. Continue therefore to read it and to regulate your life by its precepts.
--John Jay - 1st Chief-Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court

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Education is useless without the Bible. The Bible was America’s basic text book in all fields. God’s Word, contained in the Bible, has furnished all necessary rules to direct our conduct.
--Noah Webster (1758-1843) -- "The Schoolmaster of the Nation."

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Without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure.
-Ronald Reagan

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Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.
-Ronald Reagan

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nonsqtr · #**116** (**permalink**) 10-24-2007, 04:24 AM

Wait a minute, aren't you the same guy that just revived a thread to post some White Power nonsense? And you're over here quoting Reagan? Are you the same guy? If not, my bad.... if so, then yours....

rwking · #**117** (**permalink**) 10-24-2007, 05:46 AM

a quote battle? This won't get you anywhere! You guys are arguing opinions, and other people's opinioins at that! What is that going to prove? "Oh I bet I can find more pro-Bible quotes than you can find anti-Bible quotes!" hahaha Silly, silly...

If you guys wanna debate, then try being objective and explaining your point of view in your own words. Oh yeah, and check out this picture of the sunset I took with my cell phone on Sunday. haha It's sure to make you smile.

greatamerican128 · #**118** (**permalink**) 10-24-2007, 03:08 PM

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Wait a minute, aren't you the same guy that just revived a thread to post some White Power nonsense? And you're over here quoting Reagan? Are you the same guy? If not, my bad.... if so, then yours....

No, I don't recall reviving such a thread. And to let you know I am very much for racial equality in society.

nonsqtr · #**119** (**permalink**) 10-25-2007, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by greatamerican128";p=&quot

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Originally Posted by nonsqtr";p=&quot

Wait a minute, aren't you the same guy that just revived a thread to post some White Power nonsense? And you're over here quoting Reagan? Are you the same guy? If not, my bad.... if so, then yours....

No, I don't recall reviving such a thread. And to let you know I am very much for racial equality in society.

Yeah, my bad. I apologize. I found out who the culprit was, it wasn't you. Sorry, didn't mean anything by it, it just caught me by surprise, is all....

"Racial equality", yes? Hmm... all men are "created" equal, but that condition kinda stops when you leave the womb, right?

tommy · #**120** (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 12:09 PM

Someone is quioting Regan?? what a goof!

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