Religion is evil - Page 13

greatamerican128 · #**121** (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tommy";p=&quot

Someone is quioting Regan?? what a goof!

Reagen was by far one of the best president we have had in a long while. Why DON'T you like him?

Ixtellor · #**122** (**permalink**) 11-15-2007, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by greatamerican128";p=&quot

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Originally Posted by tommy";p=&quot

Someone is quioting Regan?? what a goof!

Reagen was by far one of the best president we have had in a long while. Why DON'T you like him?

The only four things I do not like about Reagan are:
1) He was a hard core spending fiend, and Conservatives act like he wasn't.
2) He supported the Contras, a group of armed terrorists working solo for the restoration of a violent dictatorship no better than the regime of Saddam.
3) He sold weapons to terrorists, then played the old man card like he had no clue. He was just a silly old man, and how could he be expected to know we were giving weapons to terrorists.
4) Under his administration, we saw a massive shift of wealth from middle and lower class Americans to those at the top. Rich people are good for the economy and a large portion of investment and economic growth comes from their efforts, but when that wealth is at the expense of middle class Americans, the benefit of the investment does NOT trickle down. Government economic policy should not focus on making the top 1% even wealthier. The idea of trickle down is ok, as long as it is actually trickleing down and not just being deposited into off shore banks.

Ixtellor

greatamerican128 · #**123** (**permalink**) 11-15-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ixtellor";p=&quot

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Originally Posted by greatamerican128";p=&quot

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Originally Posted by tommy";p=&quot

Someone is quioting Regan?? what a goof!

Reagen was by far one of the best president we have had in a long while. Why DON'T you like him?

The only four things I do not like about Reagan are:
1) He was a hard core spending fiend, and Conservatives act like he wasn't.
2) He supported the Contras, a group of armed terrorists working solo for the restoration of a violent dictatorship no better than the regime of Saddam.
3) He sold weapons to terrorists, then played the old man card like he had no clue. He was just a silly old man, and how could he be expected to know we were giving weapons to terrorists.
4) Under his administration, we saw a massive shift of wealth from middle and lower class Americans to those at the top. Rich people are good for the economy and a large portion of investment and economic growth comes from their efforts, but when that wealth is at the expense of middle class Americans, the benefit of the investment does NOT trickle down. Government economic policy should not focus on making the top 1% even wealthier. The idea of trickle down is ok, as long as it is actually trickleing down and not just being deposited into off shore banks.

Ixtellor

No kidding he spent, he outspent the soviet union until it collapsed. However, he actually relaxed most government restrictions which is a good thing. But of course there must be no choices for the poeple and the companies, because the government knows best right?

And also you might want to rethink your hatred of Reagonomics, because his economics cut poverty in the US and accros the world, just take a look at this.

Reagan, the poverty slayer

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Political discussions can turn on the data as well. With the risks of such speculation in mind, here's an interesting question: What world leader was history's greatest champion of the poor? The data overwhelmingly favor a single candidate: Ronald Reagan. The proportion of the world's population living in extreme poverty has plummeted since 1980. Going from percentages to head counts, the numbers are staggering. In 1970, for example, about 1.3 billion people lived in poverty. By 1981, the number had climbed to 1.5 billion. But by 2001, that number dropped to 1.1 billion even as world population had increased.

It is not just the absolute income of the poor that has improved; their relative share of resources has increased as well. Looking farther back into history, it is possible to cobble together from the literature a measure of income inequality going back to around 1800, and the data present a similar, striking story. World income inequality generally increased from 1800 to about 1980; since then, it has dropped steadily--for the first time in recorded history.

Why have the poor done so much better? An extensive study by Columbia University economist Xavier Sala-i-Martin suggests a simple but convincing story: Formerly Communist and socialist countries recognized the benefits of free markets and loosened their harsh redistributive policies. This market liberalization is reflected in the Fraser Institute's Economic Freedom of the World Report, which measures the degree to which policies and institutions support personal choice, voluntary exchange, competition, and private-property rights. From 1981 to 2001, the worldwide average economic-freedom score rose from 5.1 (out of 10) to 6.5. This increase in economic freedom, the blue line, led to the astonishing economic growth that has made almost everyone, especially the poor, better off. Just think of the change in circumstances over the past 20 years for the typical resident of China, India, or the former Soviet Union.

There is little doubt that the leading proponent of this transformation was Ronald Reagan. Without him, the U.S. itself would likely still be shackled by punitive tax rates and Kafkaesque regulation. Instead, freedom has advanced at home and spread abroad. By promoting free markets, Reagan freed more from poverty than anyone else in history.

He championed the poor even better than Sammy Baugh punted.

I'm also guessing you think putting money in the people's pockets by lowering taxes somehow creates more of a gap between the rich and the poor. More money for people to spend equals a better economy and a better economy equals less poverty. The government shouldn't tell the people what to do and make the them dependent on the government. They already tried that in the Soviet Union and it didn't work out so well.

And sure I'll admit he made some mistakes as far as terrorism went, which was a shame. I'm not saying he didn't make them, but for the most part he was arming anti-communists which he saw as a valuable tactic at the time. Besides the US was in the time of the red scare, so it was understandable. If you take what Reagan did well vs what he didn't do well, he is still a great president.

ReformIsDire · #**124** (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by rwking";p=&quot

Well, atleast isn't a word.

It's "at least." So, that would be 9 words.

But still, I don't see your point. What are you trying to say?

Ok a gramar technicality... but my point is that there is tangible proof that the universe exists, unlike god.

ReformIsDire · #**125** (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 05:17 AM

Religion is "Evil". For example, the judeo-christian's values promote peace and non-violent behavior. However if you have read the bible you know that in the Judges period the cristians commited attrocities! They killed women and children, wiped out entires cites. If you get a chanse watch the history chanel exlusive on how the the profits of christianity where, in reality millitary leaders. Also you can see great "Evils" of religion come out again, in the elezabethen era where thousands of chatholics where killed. There are many evils that come form religion, because it makes pepole think if they are acting on the principles of their religion (For example: muslims) it is ok to commit what ever attrocities they to crusades, spanish inquisition;

when will we stop this?

"The thickness of ones head, is measured by the strength of ones faith"
-Mavahaz

dano · #**126** (**permalink**) 11-21-2007, 10:05 PM

I speak of the light of Truth. I see the works of a loving God everytime I look up at the universe. I see God when love is shared between people. Where did love come from? It sure is not on the periodic table of elements.
It is sad that to think you are living such a finite life. Mine, well I am living in "eternity" even as I write this. I cannot comprehend it, but I know it.
Yes, there was killing, wars and terrible things written about in the Bible. God has rightous anger and He dishes it out when we deserve it. The rest is "mans" warped view and use of the Word of God. It is not God that is the problem, it is mankinds pride, arrogance and ego that corrupt the Holy Word of God and cause the trageties you site as examples.
I hope that someday your spiritua "light" will ignite and you will find the Truth of Jesus Christ and His forgiveness and love.

Joker · #**127** (**permalink**) 11-22-2007, 07:29 AM

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I hope that someday your spiritua "light" will ignite and you will find the Truth of Jesus Christ and His forgiveness and love.

Yeah, I hope so, too, but why should his spiritual light be limited to Christ?

dano · #**128** (**permalink**) 11-23-2007, 09:48 AM

Joker, I believe the reason is because; as far as I know, no one has ever sacrificed themselves for the sins of the world; not Buddah, Confucious, Ghandi' all great men, but men non the less.
Jesus was the only fully man-fully God devine being that has met the nearly incalcuable statistic of meeting all the prophecies written about Him many years before His birth, That being Jesus Christ!
Man, through pride and arrogance separated himself from God. Christianity is the only "religion" that demonstrates God seeking mankind again through His Son, Jesus Christ. All others rely on mankind trying to earn their way to Heaven through good acts, thoughts, words and deeds, an impossible task for mankind. Only the free grace of Jesus Christ grants us entry into Heaven.
Supreme love, beyond what we can imagine. So that is why Jesus is the only one and it is also not religion that is evil; by the way, it's mans misuse of it for personal gain, control, money, power, adoration; all self serving acts.
Jesus was about forgiving, sharing and loving, yet we should try our best to live according to the Ten Commandments.
I hope this somewhat clears up why I believe that Christ is the only one.

greatamerican128 · #**129** (**permalink**) 11-24-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ReformIsDire";p=&quot

Religion is "Evil". For example, the judeo-christian's values promote peace and non-violent behavior. However if you have read the bible you know that in the Judges period the cristians commited attrocities! They killed women and children, wiped out entires cites. If you get a chanse watch the history chanel exlusive on how the the profits of christianity where, in reality millitary leaders. Also you can see great "Evils" of religion come out again, in the elezabethen era where thousands of chatholics where killed. There are many evils that come form religion, because it makes pepole think if they are acting on the principles of their religion (For example: muslims) it is ok to commit what ever attrocities they to crusades, spanish inquisition;

when will we stop this?

"The thickness of ones head, is measured by the strength of ones faith"
-Mavahaz

Someone has a poor understanding of the Bible. Here is a shocking truth for you. Religion isn't evil, PEOPLE are evil. Believe it or not, atheists have murdered people too, I know that might be hard to believe but it happens. If all we did is focus on the horrible things that people in different groups have done everyone would hate everyone. That in itself would cause a war, no religion involved.

FreedomSeeker · #**130** (**permalink**) 12-03-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeChina";p=&quot

Religion is just social engineering of the ancient and just another type of control. Has anyone really seen GOD? Be real, those who are religious are just plain ignorant.

Excellent post.

An example: thousands of (many sword-wielding) angry mob members shouting for the DEATH of a 54 year-old lady British teacher who's horrific crime was to allow a Teddy Bear to be named "Mohammad"....THAT'S IN FRICKIN SANE! I'd be ashamed to publicly call myself a Muslim after that.

Details: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa...her/index.html

I foresee the end of religion in the not too terribly distant future. Thank-god for that!

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