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Old 04-14-2004, 01:02 AM
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Default Origin of the name Christ and the meaning of Messiah

CHRIST NOT A NAME

The word CHRIST is derived from the Hebrew word Messiah, Arabic-Masih. Root word m-a-s-a-h-a, meaning to rub, to massage, to anoint. Priests and kings were anointed when being consecrated to their offices. But in its translated, Grecian form "CHRIST", it seems unique:befitting Jesus only. The Christian has a knack of transmuting baser metals into shining gold. What he is wont to do is to translate names into his own language like "cephas" to Peter, "messiah" to Christ. How does he do that? Very easily MESSIAH in Hebrew means anointed. The Greek word for anointed is "christos". Just lop off the 'os' from christos and you are left with christ. Now change the little 'c' to a capital 'C', and "hey, presto!" he has created a unique (?) name! Christos means ANOINTED, and anointed means APPOINTED in its religious connotation. Jesus (pbuh) was appointed (anointed) at his baptism by John the Baptist, as God's Messenger.Every Prophet of God is so anointed or appointed. The Holy Bible is replete with the "anointed" ones. In the original Hebrew - made a "messiah". Let us keep to the English translation - "anointed." Not only were prophets and priests and kings anointed (christos-ed), but borns, and cherubs and lamp-posts also.

I am the God of Beth-el, where you ANOINTED a pillar.....
Genesis 31:13

If the priest that is ANOINTED do sin....
Leviticus 4:3

And Moses....ANOINTED the tabernacle and all things that was therein...
Leviticus 8:10

...THE LORD SHALL....EXALT THE HORN OF HIS ANOINTED
1 Samuel 2:10

Thus saith the Lord to his ANOINTED to Cyrus....
Isaiah 45:1

Thou art the ANOINTED cherub....
Ezekiel 28:14

There are a hundred more such references in the Holy Bible. Everytime you come across the word ANOINTED in your English Bible, you can take it that that word would be christos in the Greek translations, and if you take the same liberty with the word that the Christians have done, you will have - Christ Cherub, Christ Cyrus, Christ Priest and Christ Pillar, etc.
SOME TITLES EXCLUSIVE

Although, every prophet of God is an ANOINTED one of God - a Messiah, the title "Masih" or "Messiah" or its translation "CHRIST" is exclusively reserved for Jesus, the son of Mary, in both Islam and in Christianity. This is not unusual in religion. There are certain other honorific title which may be applied to more than one prophet, yet being made exclusive to one by usage: like "Rasul-lullah", meaning Messenger of God, which title is applied to both Moses (19:51) and Jesus (61:6) in the Holy Quran. Yet "Rasul-lullah" has become synonymous only with the Prophet of Islam among Muslims.

Every prophet is indeed a FRIEND OF GOD, but its Arabic equivalent "Kha- lil-lullah" is exclusively associated with Father Abraham. This does not mean that the others are not God's friends. "Kalimul-lah" (One who spoke with God) is never used for anyone other than Moses, yet we believe that God spoke with all His Messengers, including Jesus and Muhummed (May the Peace and Blessings of God be upon all His servants). Associating certain titles with certain personages only, does not make them exclusive or unique in any way. We honour all in varying terms.

Whilst the good news was being announded (verse 45 above) Mary was told that her unborn child will be called Jesus, that he would be the Christ, a "Word" from God, and that.....

"HE SHALL SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE IN CHILDHOOD* AND IN MATURITY. AND HE SHALL BE (OF THE COMPANY) OF THE RIGHTEOUS."
Holy Quran 3:46

* This prophecy found fulfilment within a very short time. We find this in Sura Maryam below:

"AT LENGTH SHE BROUGHT HIM (THE BABE) TO HER PEOPLE, CARRYING HIM (IN HER ARMS). THEY SAID:"O MARY! TRULY AN-AMAZING THING HAST THOU BROUGHT! O SISTER OF AARON THY FATHER WAS NOT A MAN OF EVIL NOR THY MOTHER A WOMAN UNCHASTE!"
Holy Quran 19:27-28
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Old 04-14-2004, 01:07 AM
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Default This is not my work but from another author located at:

http://www.barnabas.net/messiah.htm

Just to let everyone know that the Gospel of Barnabas is not reliable and it is a fraud. However, the info on the above is appropriate except the insult to Christians. So, excuse this scholar for his insult if his words seem like an insult I apologize.
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Old 04-14-2004, 01:14 AM
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Default ????WTF????

Why is this in a Current Events forum on a POLITICAL BBS?

Jeez I'm an atheist and I know that chirst isn't a name - fercrisakes.

This isn't news - it isn't current - and it isn't political.


Can't you find a jesus freak BBS to post on honey?
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Default I'm not sure about that

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Why is this in a Current Events forum on a POLITICAL BBS?

Jeez I'm an atheist and I know that chirst isn't a name - fercrisakes.

This isn't news - it isn't current - and it isn't political.


Can't you find a jesus freak BBS to post on honey?
The right wing has brought religion into politics, so it's impossible to discuss one without the other. I think this is the democrat's biggest failure - to meet the Right on their own turf and have it out with them. I welcome religious talk in the context of all these fascist jerks, because they have usurped the name of God to their own ends and I think they should be beaten back with the same club.
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Old 04-14-2004, 02:54 AM
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Default Thanks TerryR.....

We are about to show the Conservatives(not all) or Neo-cons(Compassionate conservatives creators and no nothing about it) and the Fascists(Equivalent of the rigid Pharisees of their time) the true meaning and application of religion as Liberals and Moderates.
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How is this current events and "the latest political news"?
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Default Where would you like us to talk about it?

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How is this current events and "the latest political news"?
Since this forum doesn't have a religious section, this is as good a place as any.

Besides, as most posters claim to believe in God, then every conversation must end up talking about God. You can't discuss a teaspoon without getting into God. Things are inseparable. Especially concerning God, if you believe in Him, since He is in everything.
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Since this forum doesn't have a religious section, this is as good a place as any.
What's wrong with the section titled "Religion" under "Other Political Issues"?
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Old 04-14-2004, 11:17 AM
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Default Hello Liberty......

I understand your question but the reason I am doing this is:

1. The issue of Israel is political and religious because the Neo-Cons who support G.W. Bush supposedly are following the Bible(with wrong interpretations and insight!).

2. The Islamic issues and other are intertwined with religion.

3. Therefore, the concept of religion and state is something new. The US constitution never says: " Seperation of Church and State" , it is just implied which gives room for interpretation.
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Default Still...

...this is nothing "new". Just post this in the Religion section, and give a link to that post when the information becomes relevant in another thread.

It'll help unclog the current events section.
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