Hehehe. Good one. Agree.

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Okay, it might be used in that sense. I actually admire the guy and think he 'has a lot of facettes'. He writes books and columns and he is a music critic.
Mind, that Wikipedia article is written by his enemies.
Calling him mainly a music critic is dishonest and should make him look silly.[/quote]

He is not bull-s-ing or he is not an expert?

Nice sig.
I didn't get that other stuff though.

I dont think they care. They just want to take over the world for allah.

Neonazis are usually wrong and evil. Thats why everybody hates them.
If neonazis pitch something, it can still be right.
It is unfortunate that the neonazis picked something, that happens to be right.
I think they do more dammage than good, just because nobody listens any more after they hear which side the neonazis are on.

You are willing to take your chance with the danger that you percieve to be less.
I say, it has just been hidden well from you. We are going to change that.

Now I have to call Goodwins law on you.

God(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*), my keyboard is acting out on me. It's driving me nuts. Or I'm losing it and type wrong letters.

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Like I wrote before, I tend to put more faith in foreign articles, there's usually less gain to be had by false information.

He's most certainly not an expert.


What other stuff?^^


If that's the case, we're (*)(*)(*)(*)ed. But I believe there are plenty of muslims who are willing to defect from the cause.


I agree, but just because it can still be right, doesn't mean it can't be wrong

But seriously, the entire world is going to rape us if we start listening to the Neonazis.

You're starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist

I wasn't comparing you to the Nazis, i was comparing the Islamists. That doesn't count. Godwin's law should be more of a guide line type thing anyway. If you can make it work and know what you're talking about, you can compare things to Nazis. Just don't do it as a joke and make sure you're comparison is really appropriate. Which in this case I believe it was.

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Awesome sentence.

Im a Tarte, what! you want some of this?

I didnt understand the rest of what I quoted there. Doesn't matter.


lets hope they secularize before killing us all.

Actually us hetero men have not that much to fear from an islamist europe. - I assume you're hetero, you mentioned you have kids.
We're just forced to grow a beard and pray to mekka. It's women, gays and liberals who get smacked down on the most.
They should be concerned the most.

I certainly dont want to listen to neonazis. I want them gone.

but what they say is true in this one instance, and should be done.

Maybe they are right about other stuff too. I have not checked on that.
i even agree with islamo-facists on some stuff. For example that some people should be beheaded.

I wanted to avoid that. Cause I'm not.
Exept me always taking devils advocate positions around here to get a kick out of everybody hating on me, I have pretty normal views.

I know it was a joke.
I think goodwins law is an excuse by people with nazi-like attitudes to not have that similarity pointed out, by simply declaring any nazi comparison banned.

PS. I am technically misquoting you, I had to delete a few smilies, cause the site keeps telling me I can only have 4 in every post.

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While I am hetero, I don't have kids. I'm 18 and in my first year of University, kids are kind of a bad thing at this stage of life. I may have pretended to have kids for the sake of argument, though, or talked about the future in which I assume I will have kids, or have talked about what I would do if I had kids. But I don't. I will frequently pretend a lot of things for the first and third reason.

While beheading is awesome in theory, it does make an awful mess. Radical positions on both end of the spectrum should be avoided. And like I said, even if Germany recognized we had to listen to Neonazis, the US, Britain and France would be all over us before we could say "Oh look, that seems to be a nuke." France still has their nukes pointed at us in case the Russians invade.



Even smart people can get caught up in the wave. I was into the whole 9/11 inside job thing for a while. Until I realized that it was pretty stupid.

It is a good guide line for people who haven't discussed often. Comparisons to Nazis tend to be on the extreme side, and often anything compared to anything the Nazis did is instantly awful. If you do it with ample consideration, it'll work fine. But saying "Oh, Hitler had a dog, dogs are the most horrible animals in the world" is the kind of thing you have to be weary of. On the other hand, saying, "Hitler deported people into concentration camps by race, maybe that isn't such a good idea." is, in my book, a fair argument. You always have to see which one your argument is more like.

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Awesome sentence.

Im a Tarte, what! you want some of this?

Ha. Caught you. That quote is in no way out of context.

I remember that, and it might have been about the future, thats fine.

But I hope you dont lie too much. I don't.

Not "listening to neonazis", but not rejecting it just because they are for it.

Right. I try to be truthful and find errors in my thinking.

But I think there are such a small percentage agreeing with me on the dangers and the extend of of islamisation in europe, that I'm not afraid of being caught by a wave. Its rather swimming against the current.

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I just looked it up, and it was will future. I strongly assume I will have kids at some point in my life. When I have them, I'll teach them tolerance.



Well, I don't reject an idea merely because Nazis are for it, they do have good ideas. I do reject an idea when only the Nazis are for it, that to me is a red flag.

I sincerely doubt you will find a conspiracy theorist who says anything else But if the entire media is shunning the problem, that is a pretty good hint. If the entire media is shunning a problem caused by a group that has no influence in the media business, that's a bright neon sign. If the entire media shuns a problem caused by a group that has no influence in the media business and would cause considerable harm to the freedom of the press as well as the jobs of most reporters, that's the equivalent of a gaggle of naked girls forming the letters right in front of you. Yes, there may be a problem. But how is Mark Steyn of all people the only one who noticed, and why did no one continue with this story? Instead we hear all day about Sarah Connor's mother giving birth to twins and the Obamas choosing a dog. It being incredibly unlikels doesn't mean it's not true, but it does mean it's incredibly unlikely.

Waves are funny like that. They move around a lot on the top, but there's a lot of non-moving water beneath it. Just stay out of any currents and you can drift near effortlessly wherever you please. Just some places are dangerous due to predators that harm you and currents that take you places you do not wish to go.
Okay, I exhausted the sea metaphore.

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Awesome sentence.

Im a Tarte, what! you want some of this?

Good point. But while we argue using 'guilt by association':
The american right-wing talk shows say it too. See that audio file i sent you.
I can't think of any political affiliation further from neonazis.

You know, the pentagon and the international canned food industry work together to keep this secret....

Your descriptions make it sound like a conspiracy theory. And now you put me in a pigeonhole, and I cant get out. I feel how I start arguing like a conspiracy theorist. Lets say, I thought about it, and I'm very shure it's not. Does that count?
I actually look down at conspiracy theories and feel good about myself for being smarter.
All those arguments about the media and its long term interest. It's just individual stupidness. Can't argue with that?
They don't look at long term interest. The media doesn't want to report what makes people feel bad and tune out this month.
Just like banks giving home loans to people that cant afford them.
And it's not some government plot keeping things secret. Its just everybody deciding on themselves that they rather not be bothered with jihad.

That only one person notices, IS the mark of many conspiracy theories.
Though I would say that Mark Steyn is the one who wrote the book. There are many shouting about it, mainly conservatives, being ignored.

I suggest, you listen to 20 minutes of that talk show I send you, and see what you think.

Seagulls, they look white, but really inside they are... umm...

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You did not just seriously say that right wing conservatives are the furthest away ideologically from Neonazis. I can't think of a major party in a western country I would consider closer than the right wing fringes of the Republican party. The main difference is of course the obvious one, anti-semitism. But promotion of their own faith, homophobia, traditional family structures...there's quite a bit of overlap.

And I listened to the conspiracy theorist for however long he was on and actually managed to pay attention a bit. He had some valid points and some things that need to be adressed, but he would suck balls at being a conspiracy theorist if he didn't. My point is that it's way overblown. He's talking about a few isolated incidents. Yeah, we have to keep an eye out and make sure that they don't increase, and that they don't segregate themselves too much. They've gotta know what a nice place we non Muslim folks make this.

And where do people get the notion from that news wants to make you feel good. That sounds like it would sell like wildfire, if it were true.

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Awesome sentence.

Im a Tarte, what! you want some of this?

I did mean right wing radio talk shows like Micheal Savage.
But I hereby retract that overall claim.

Well true, news is usually car accidents and such. And britney spears.
I think the notion of this big elaborate plan to take over the west is just really
people dont want to deal with.

How did we get to argue about that anyways?

Edit: Hey, btw. that second quote in my sig is a videolink,
I think its funny and not at all conspiracy-theory-ish.

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