you can find the complete text of this letter at:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...5;&version=49;

In spite of the sexism and slavery, this book seems suprisingly relevent. Its an excellent book.

Of particular interest is this passage:

2:13-14

It also talks about the art of modesty, love, kindness, turning the other cheek and in general respecting people regardless of who they are.

And it talks about peaceful revolution, reminiscent of Ghandi and Jesus Christ. Basically, being punished for breaking the law is a disgrace, but being punished for doing right is a badge of honor...

To be honest, i like this letter mostly because it declares the opposite of everything i dislike about radical "Islam." They arn't just terrorists, they are violent anarchists. They serve no one, and they tolerate nothing.

So if i were to show anything in the bible to radical "islam" this would certainly be it.

The soft toungue and the pen are mightier than the sword. Still, it seems to go against all of the thoughts of violent, angry revolution that pervades thinking all across the world these days.

So what are your thoughts? Is this letter relevent to you? Or do you find it offensive?

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The portion you quoted is an almost exact replica of Romans 13:1 by Paul. I always knew Saul/Paul heisted Christianity from Peter, but now you've provided further proof of that. Thank you.

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Care to elaborate?

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I'm not sure what you mean by elaborate on two nearly identical passages. What are you looking for?

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Acts. He also kicks Barnabas and John/Mark to the curb in that book.

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Considering the cross-talk over 2 threads, I hereby post this link to the other one, "God of Love".

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{crickets}

Not refuted, so I guess my claim stands.

Saul/Paul is a royal piece of work. According to Ebionite records, Saul/Paul had a major falling out with both Peter and James, the latter two of which disowned and distanced themselves from Saul/Paul. The letters of Peter were not written by Peter the Apostle but by a companion of Saul/Paul's. The Gospel of Mattew was the newest of all four Gospels and is unlikely to have been written by Matthew the Apostle; the Gospel of John is most likely to have been written by the John/Mark that Saul/Paul kicked to the curb in Acts, and it's also likely that Gospel writers Mark and John were the same person.

QUICK QUIZ: Name all the Twelve as mentioned in the Gospel of John.

Anybody who can remember ten Commandments should be able to come up with a dozen names right off the top of the head.

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[sarcasm] Yes, I agree. However, you obviously you agree with everything in the letter of Peter. As you havn't talked about anything but paul and his conspiracy. [/sarcasm]

Clara, you make a lot of claims about biblical history, about which i know very little about. You do not provide sources, and as i don't feel like refuting your claims of what took place 1,900 years before i was born. I came here to discuss philosophy, not history.

If you would like to comment on the letter of Peter, please do so. If you wish to rant about how paul usurped the christian church the Gnostics, please make a seperate post.

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I'm with you, Nathan. It is an excellent book. Why do you think it's ignored? I actually quoted part of it in a condolence card recently, so obviously I find it quite relevant.

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