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Apologies to all the peace-loving Muslims out there, but aren't all the terrorists who are killing US troops and innocent civilians doing it
"for the love of Allah!"

Seems kind of strange to me...
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Default Look at all the stupid things people do

for the love of {insert random religion here}. Throughout history organized religion has caused amazing amounts of suffering. Fundamentalist Islam is a bane on human existence. But so is fundamentalist anything IMO. In the end it never goes right when fundamentalist elements take over.
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"The Inquisition! What a show. The Inquisition! Here we go. I bet you're wishin', we would go awaaaayyyy!!!! But The Inquisition's here and it's here to staaayyyyyy!!!!!"

Every religion has been manipulated at some point by fringe extremists.
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Wahhabism is the worst!

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...wahhabism.html

"Christians and Jews repeatedly are labeled as infidels and enemies of Islam who should not be befriended or emulated, and are referred to in eighth-grade textbooks as 'apes and pigs,'" the report said. In addition, it found that "some Saudi government-funded textbooks used in North American Islamic schools have been found to encourage incitement to violence again non-Muslims."

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This is scary! And so....why are we letting it take place right under our noses?

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Islamism's Campus Club: The Muslim Students' Association

By Jonathan Dowd-Gailey

Middle East Quarterly
June 1, 2004

The northern Virginia-based Muslim Students' Association (MSA) might easily be taken for a benign student religious group. It promotes itself as a benevolent, non-political entity devoted to the simple virtue of celebrating Islam and providing college students a healthy venue to develop their faith and engage in philanthropy. Along these lines, its constitution declares the MSA's mission as serving "the best interest of Islam and Muslims in the United States and Canada so as to enable them to practice Islam as a complete way of life."[1]

Today, over 150 MSA chapters exist on American college campuses (divided into five regional chapters), easily establishing this organization as the most extensive Muslim student organization in North America. A Washington, D.C.-based national office assists in the establishment of constituent chapters and oversees fundraising and conferences while steering a plethora of special committees and "Political Action Task Forces."

Yet consider some of these recent activities of the MSA:

At a meeting in Queensborough Community College in New York in March 2003, a guest speaker named Faheed declared, "We reject the U.N., reject America, reject all law and order. Don't lobby Congress or protest because we don't recognize Congress. The only relationship you should have with America is to topple it … Eventually there will be a Muslim in the White House dictating the laws of Shariah."[2]

During an October 2000 anti-Israeli protest, former MSA president Ahmed Shama at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) stood before the Israeli consulate in Los Angeles, shouting "Victory to Islam! Death to the Jews!" MSA West president Sohail Shakr declared at the same rally, "the biggest impediment to peace [in the Middle East] has been the existence of the Zionist entity in the middle of the Muslim world."[3]

Prior to September 11, 2001, the MSA formally assisted three Islamic charities in fundraising: the Holy Land Foundation, Global Relief, and Benevolence Foundation. After that date, all three were accused by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) of having serious links to terrorism and were ordered closed. The MSA issued a formal statement of protest: "How three of the nation's largest Muslim charities could be made inoperable at the peak of the giving season of Ramadan seemed unbelievable."[4]

This is only the tip of the iceberg. There is overwhelming evidence that the MSA, far from being a benign student society, is an overtly political organization seeking to create a single Muslim voice on U.S. campuses—a voice espousing Wahhabism, anti-Americanism, and anti-Semitism, agitating aggressively against U.S. Middle East policy, and expressing solidarity with militant Islamist ideologies, sometimes with criminal results."
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I am a student at Florida State University, where there is not only a Muslim Student Association, and they have done nothing to suggest those type of beliefs. They hold numerous evetns with the Jewish student Association and for the most part are just all about raising awareness of issues pertaining to the middle east. I kow this because I am involved in these groups. So please do not make them out to be Anti-American, or working for the terrorists because 99% of them are not. Every group brings in speakers who says things that they regret.

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Demosthenes, in my original statement, i recognized that there are peace loving muslims in the world. However, my statements are completely true in saying that the Iraq terrorists are a radical fringe of Islam. In no way was I saying that Islam was the religion of evil. I simply stated the facts that there are some Muslims who believe that whoever is not Muslim is dead...or will be.
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...any story of any other religion beheading people that don't believe the way they do. Unless you are fluent in Arabic, you have no idea what goes on in the mosques and the language used by the Imams.
Below is the link of what is beginning to happen in the US, and the muslim viciousness will escalate their hatred for non-believers. We live in a court of public opinion, no matter how false or distorted that opinion is. But lest they forget, we have 300 million citizens that own guns, and things could turn pretty ugly.
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...any story of any other religion beheading people that don't believe the way they do.
Perhaps you believe torture and burning at the stake is more humane? Bartolome de las Casas, a Dominican friar and historian, described the horrific deeds perpetrated by Columbus and his men against the natives they encountered in the Carribean. Most of those natives were described as the most guileless and peaceful people they ever encountered. But if you are referring to contemporary events, I guess it is safe to say that the Christian "Right" is now content to write books and fantasize about the hideous things that will befall non-Christians.

It is worth a mention that the U.S. not only tolerated but supported the most extreme elements of Islam in the fight against the Russians in Afghanistan. The Taliban used to be "freedom fighters".
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Most Christian extremists are content to fantasize- except for the ones who shoot doctors and blow up clinics.
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