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I have a really hard time believing in God when He allows a mother like this to exploit her own child in His name.
http://www.littleaudreysanto.org/

This sort of thing makes me sick. Especially now that I have a daughter of my own. My skin actually crawls when I think of the mother of this poor child. This woman, if there is a God and divine justice, will never see Heaven. This woman should rot in Hell for all of eternity.

Now I ask any devout religious person, make me understand how God can exist and allow such a thing to happen to a child...and then to (*)(*)(*)(*) her with a mother like this.
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I have a really hard time believing in God when He allows a mother like this to exploit her own child in His name.
http://www.littleaudreysanto.org/

This sort of thing makes me sick. Especially now that I have a daughter of my own. My skin actually crawls when I think of the mother of this poor child. This woman, if there is a God and divine justice, will never see Heaven. This woman should rot in Hell for all of eternity.

Now I ask any devout religious person, make me understand how God can exist and allow such a thing to happen to a child...and then to (*)(*)(*)(*) her with a mother like this.
Why do people keep blaming God for the frailties of misguided (wo)men? You’re looking in the wrong direction for understanding.
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I agree with Sam.

People have a great misunderstanding for the reason for evil. In islam, when things happen to good people or even innocent they are also guaranteed paradise.

Sahih Bukhari -
Volume 7, Book 70, Number 551:
Narrated 'Abdullah:
I visited Allah's Apostle while he was suffering from a high fever. I said, "O Allah's Apostle! You have a high fever." He said, "Yes, I have as much fever as two men of you." I said, "Is it because you will have a double reward?" He said, "Yes, it is so. No Muslim is afflicted with any harm, even if it were the prick of a thorn, but that Allah expiates his sins because of that, as a tree sheds its leaves."

Sahih Bukhari -
Volume 4, Book 52, Number 137:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "Let the slave of Dinar and Dirham of Quantify and Khamisa (i.e. money and luxurious clothes) perish for he is pleased if these things are given to him, and if not, he is displeased!"

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, " Let the slave of Dinar and Dirham, of Quantify and Khamisa perish as he is pleased if these things are given to him, and if not, he is displeased. Let such a person perish and relapse, and if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him. Paradise is for him who holds the reins of his horse to strive in Allah's Cause, with his hair unkempt and feet covered with dust: if he is appointed in the vanguard, he is perfectly satisfied with his post of guarding, and if he is appointed in the rearward, he accepts his post with satisfaction; (he is so simple and unambiguous that) if he asks for permission he is not permitted, and if he intercedes, his intercession is not accepted."

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Volume 9, Book 88, Number 224:
Narrated Ibn 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "If Allah sends punishment upon a nation then it befalls upon the whole population indiscriminately and then they will be resurrected (and judged) according to their deeds. "
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I have a really hard time believing in God when He allows a mother like this to exploit her own child in His name.
http://www.littleaudreysanto.org/

This sort of thing makes me sick. Especially now that I have a daughter of my own. My skin actually crawls when I think of the mother of this poor child. This woman, if there is a God and divine justice, will never see Heaven. This woman should rot in Hell for all of eternity.

Now I ask any devout religious person, make me understand how God can exist and allow such a thing to happen to a child...and then to (*)(*)(*)(*) her with a mother like this.
Why do people keep blaming God for the frailties of misguided (wo)men? You’re looking in the wrong direction for understanding.
Hardly. This God's on record as desiring the blood of many children. God allows what he does cuz he made things that way to begin with. It is his intention for such things to be so.

The Bible On Child Killing/Abuse

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And Moses was wroth...And Moses said unto them, "Have ye saved all the women alive?...Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman...But all the women children...keep alive for yourselves.
Numbers 31:14, 17, 18
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But the king {David} took the two sons of Rizpah...and the five sons of Michal...and he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them in the hill before the Lord: and they fell all seven together, and were put to death in the days of harvest...And after that God was intreated for the land.
2 Samuel 21:8-14
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O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
Psalm 137:8-9
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Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy,...and they shall be your possession...they shall be your bondmen forever.
Leviticus 25:45-46
....but this scripture merges child abuse with endorsement of slavery, for which there's a separate section.
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If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them; Then shall his father and mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of the city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
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And Jephthah vowed a vow unto the Lord, and said, If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands, then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the Lord's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering...And Jephthah came to Mizpeh unto his house, and behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances: and she was his only child;...And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed.
Judges 11:30-39
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