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MOSCOW - Riot police beat and detained protesters as thousands defied an official ban and attempted to stage a rally Saturday against President Vladimir Putin's government, which opponents accuse of rolling back freedoms Russians have enjoyed since the end of Soviet communism.


A similar march planned for Sunday in St. Petersburg has also been banned by authorities.

A coalition of opposition groups organized the "Dissenters March" to protest the economic and social policies of Putin as well as a series of Kremlin actions that critics say has stripped Russians of many political rights. Organizers said only about 2,000 demonstrators turned out.

Thousands of police officers massed to keep the demonstrators off landmark Pushkin Square in downtown Moscow, beating some and detaining many others, including Garry Kasparov, the former world chess champion who has emerged as the most prominent leader of the opposition alliance.

Police said 170 people had been detained but a Kasparov aide, Marina Litvinovich, said as many as 600 were — although about half were released quickly. Kasparov, whom witnesses said was seized as he tried to lead a small group of demonstrators through lines of police ringing the square, was freed late Saturday after he was fined $38 for participating in the rally.

"It is no longer a country ... where the government tries to pretend it is playing by the letter and spirit of the law," Kasparov said outside the court building, appearing unfazed by his detention.

"We now stand somewhere between Belarus and Zimbabwe," he said.

It was the fourth time in recent months that anti-Putin demonstrations — all called Dissenters Marches — have been broken up with force or smothered by a huge police presence.

The weekend's marches were being closely watched as a barometer of how much of a threat, if any, opposition forces pose to the Kremlin as Russia prepares for parliamentary elections in December and a presidential vote next spring.

Putin, whose second and last term ends in 2008, has created an obedient parliament and his government has reasserted control over major television networks, giving little air time to critics.

TV newscasts on Saturday reported the protests, but gave as much or more time to a pro-Kremlin youth rally held near Moscow State University.

Later, police charged into a crowd of about 200 demonstrators outside the police precinct where Kasparov was being held, beating protesters with nightsticks and fists.

Kasparov and his allies mustered, by their own reckoning, about 2,000 people — far fewer than the 30,000 people who patronize the McDonald's restaurant at Pushkin Square on an average day.

But some protesters said they were not discouraged by the small turnout or intimidated by the overwhelming force marshaled to block the rally.

Andrei Illarionov, a former Putin economic adviser who has become a Kremlin critic, pointed out that in 1968 only six people appeared in Red Square to protest the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia.

"This is a crime against the Russian constitution," he said. "This country is not free anymore and the main criminal in Russia right now is the authorities."

About 100 of the detained protesters belong to the ultranationalist National Bolshevik Party, party spokesman Alexander Averi said. But he said Eduard Limonov, the novelist who heads the party known for street theater and political pranks aimed at Putin, evaded a detention attempt.

Organizers sought permission to gather on Pushkin Square, a traditional site for protests, but city officials rejected the request. Instead, they approved Turgenev Square, about a mile east and away from the city's commercial and cultural hub.

Organizers refused to cancel plans for the Pushkin Square rally and protesters started to arrive before 11 a.m. Police began seizing them a few at a time.

A 23-year-old woman, who gave her name only as Maria, said she and her husband, Andrei, were coming out of the subway when officers grabbed him.

"We didn't do anything," she said, tears rolling down her face as she watched her husband being hustled into a police truck. "We just wanted to see what would happen."

Viktor Vinokourov, a 67-year-old pensioner, watched the detentions from a nearby sidewalk, holding a hand-scrawled sign declaring: "I Don't Agree." A young man in a leather coat, apparently a plainclothes security officer, snatched it out of his hands.

Around noon, several hundred protesters headed away from Pushkin Square toward the sanctioned demonstration site, marching past startled motorists while chanting "Putin get out!" and "We need a new Russia!"

As they walked arm-in-arm down a main thoroughfare, a police cordon blocked their path. Some in the crowd ran forward and police charged, their truncheons flailing.

A Japanese journalist suffered a gash on the head and was treated by a policeman in a riot helmet. Eventually the crowd of protesters melted into side streets, and joined about 1,000 demonstrators at the authorized site.

Hundreds of police and soldiers surrounded the square, but let demonstrators in after checking them for weapons.

Mikhail Kasyanov, Putin's first prime minister but now a leading opponent, denounced the arrests and beatings in a speech at Turgenev Square.

"Everyone should ask the question: What is happening with our authorities — are they still sane, or have they gone mad?" he said, as the crowd chanted "Shame on the government."

Moscow Mayor Yuri Luzhkov, who observed the march, said authorities were only trying to maintain order, not to interfere with the exercising of political rights.

"We live in a democratic country, a free country, and we give the possibility to everybody to express their agreement or disagreement," he said, in remarks carried on Russia's Channel 1 television.

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Associated Press writer Mike Eckel contributed to this report.
im curious to see how long the protest and what effects it will have on a side note i love saying putin
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This news...along with the news of the 200,000 Turks who protested against having an IMAM as President.....is all good news. Problem is in Russia....those people will probably mysteriously disappear or die of poisoning or something.

I don't know what Bush saw early on in Putin's soul.....but he totally misjudged that one!!
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i've heard similar things about journalist that criticized putin they all just disappear honestly i hope protest like these will help change things but i doubt it will
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In those meetings were and will be only nazie party,social bolshevics(this party occupated Russia in 1917) and american lovely political prostituts....Kasyanov,Kas[parov and sexy girl Navodvorskaya......but they will not change Russia,Russia will not be ever communistic and fascists country.....and never will be american prostitute like it was in 1990-th....90% of russians hate them for old and our days dills....
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I don't know what Bush saw early on in Putin's soul.....but !!
It was that little bottle of Polonium 209 !!!!!
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Just little bottle....its not serious....just Boris Berezovskiy..or how he want to call hisself in UK,Platon ELenin was got it by post from USA shop.....like i buy coins in internet shops....
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About this protest...

The most part protesting - extremists from national- bolshevik party (NBP) and Avant guarde of Red Youth (AKM) - radical communistic groups.

"Bolsheviki" is Lenin's and Stalin's part of communist party of Russia.

I hope you represent what real support of such communists in Russia now. In St.-Petersburg this time on meeting has gathered 1000-1500 person. For meeting against communists in 1991 in the same place gathered 200 000 person. When you support such protesting against Putin do not forget, that you support communists.

Anybody from participants of this meeting against Putin on any fair elections will not type more than 1 % of voices of voters. NEVER!!!

Chess player Kasparov and former prime-minister Kasyanov at all have no support in the Russian society. Oppositional Liberal party SPS in these meetings participation does not accept. And takes part in elections where in the last days has passed in parliament of Krasnoyarsk region with 7%.
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Problem is in Russia....those people will probably mysteriously disappear or die of poisoning or something.
I think earlier, than them will kill in Russia, the "sniper-single" will kill Bush, shooting with different directions as it already was with JFK!
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i've heard similar things about journalist that criticized putin they all just disappear honestly i hope protest like these will help change things but i doubt it will
WHAT will change? Putin's rating of 72 %, the maximal total rating of all of these protesting 2 %!!!
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