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Old 04-24-2007, 05:43 PM
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Looks like the rightwing looks more an more soviet-like every day....Faux News has acted as the propaganda arm and the tireless comrades from the rightwing have done not but whine abotu how "all the good things are not reported"....I would have to guess that this would be a move supported by the neocons/conservative Bushies.
You think its propaganda because you don't believe in anything you silly liberal. Fox news isn't essentially propaganda because its the only conservative news station yet has the largest news audience by far. Do you really believe the liberal crap that you say or are you some rediculous mouth-piece hell bent on destroying everything our ancestor's sought,fought,worked and died for? Also, I don't support it because I'm a neo-con which itself makes no god(*)(*)(*)(*) sense and has no visible corrolation. I think it's a good idea because I'm sick of having bad news shoved down my thorat and headlining the god(*)(*)(*)(*) paper every freaken day. The only news in the news that isn't bad news is news they deem as good news because it furthers their stupid liberal destructive agenda. Which you would realize if you believed in anything.

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I simply wish to live and work in the Russia not being afraid of a nuclear attack from the USA
You cant possibly be that stupid. What possible reason would we have to nuke you? Cuba would be utterly powerless to stop us, yet we have never nuked them.
The USA already tried to attack Cuba. There was a landing in a gulf of Pigs and the USA prepared for drawing impact across Cuba during the Caribbean crisis when the USSR has placed missiles on Cuba. Now the USA place missiles in Poland and expand NATO (contrary to promises to Gorbachev) to borders of Russia.

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We could nuke Iran tomorrow, and there is not a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing they could do to stop us.
After impact across Iran you receive oil on 200 dollars for barrel.


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Yet we havnt. So what makes you think we would nuke Russia, who we dont even consider to be an enemy? You people really need to get a grip on your irrational paranoia. Its almost cartoonish. I would expect this from the uneducated masses of the third world...but I thought Russians would know better.
If Minister of Defence of the USA names Russia among possible enemies and the army of the USA trains to a nuclear attack across Russia - war with Russia NOT the PARANOIA



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For last years the USA have attacked Serbia
...because of ethnic clensing....
Ok! Kosovo has ethnic clensing NOW for serbs...

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occupied Iraq
...an enemy of the US ruled by a volitile dictator.
.And from what you have solved, what Saddam was the dictator? It just before war has been re-elected... By the way as you explain, what after overthrow of the dictator of Iraquis was lost more, than at Saddam?


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Russia and China are named by Minister of Defence of the USA possible enemies
China will never do that, because they need us. They need someone to buy all their goods, and they cant do that if we are enemies.
Russia may have little to lose by declaring the US its enemy, but China most certainly has a lot to lose.
Can be to you is better about it tell to Robert Gates? He will better explain to you why the USA it is necessary prepare for war with Russia and China.

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Russia (as Iraq and Iran) has a lot of oil and gas.
So does Canada. 40% of our imported Oil comes from Canada...not Russia or Iran or Iraq.
Canada is supervised the USA, Russia carries out an independent policy. Here the reason.
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Face facts studies have shown that those that watch Faux News in comparison to other news outlets were more likely to be utterly clueless about reality when it came to 9/11, Iraq and WMD's...like it or not its a fact.
no argument here. That's how the public is. In fact, politicians, marketers, scam-artists count on that to fool you.

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Also was it not your side of the lemming patch that cried and cried and cried about how the news just wasn't giving us the "good" news out of Iraq and the war on terror? Was it not your side of the aisle that whined that if we only heard about the good stuff that then the rest of us would become good little lemmings like you and duh?
That's still true. There's no doubt the media doesn't care one inkling about America's effort to rebuild that country. I know about this because of of my marine friends. They don't cover it. They cover death and destruction. Everyone knows this is the nature of the media. The news does not publish all the facts. It doesn't concentrate on the good until the bad happens. It only concentrates on the bad and is designed to to have the most pronounced effect of the average american psyche.


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Oh wait thats just what your arguing here eh comrade....well dos vedonia or however you spell it my little soviet booster! Shoot from now on I christen thee.... "little pooter".... in honor of your heartfelt whining for a more Soviet America!
Now that's just silly Liberalman.
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...because of ethnic clensing....
So, ethnic cleansing inside Serbia was a reason for the US aggression? Where is a connection between the USA and independent Serbia?Oh, I forgot - you are World Cop, establishing Law and Order in any part of Globe. That's why your administration has a cheek to teach governments of other countries what-to-do or what-not-to-do. I suppose, someday some World Criminal will beat a mug of this World Cop. Nobody will cry, I bet
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Looks like the rightwing looks more an more soviet-like every day....Faux News has acted as the propaganda arm and the tireless comrades from the rightwing have done not but whine abotu how "all the good things are not reported"....I would have to guess that this would be a move supported by the neocons/conservative Bushies.
You think its propaganda because you don't believe in anything you silly liberal. Fox news isn't essentially propaganda because its the only conservative news station yet has the largest news audience by far. Do you really believe the liberal crap that you say or are you some rediculous mouth-piece hell bent on destroying everything our ancestor's sought,fought,worked and died for? Also, I don't support it because I'm a neo-con which itself makes no god(*)(*)(*)(*) sense and has no visible corrolation. I think it's a good idea because I'm sick of having bad news shoved down my thorat and headlining the god(*)(*)(*)(*) paper every freaken day. The only news in the news that isn't bad news is news they deem as good news because it furthers their stupid liberal destructive agenda. Which you would realize if you believed in anything.

So the conservative media reports the good news and the liberal news reports the bad news. And we are free to come to our own conclusions. Isn't that a good thing? Personally I think the bad news outweighs the good news. And I don't think any of it matters until we engage the militias. Until then, we are only fighting half the battle.
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Face facts studies have shown that those that watch Faux News in comparison to other news outlets were more likely to be utterly clueless about reality when it came to 9/11, Iraq and WMD's...like it or not its a fact.
no argument here. That's how the public is. In fact, politicians, marketers, scam-artists count on that to fool you.

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Also was it not your side of the lemming patch that cried and cried and cried about how the news just wasn't giving us the "good" news out of Iraq and the war on terror? Was it not your side of the aisle that whined that if we only heard about the good stuff that then the rest of us would become good little lemmings like you and duh?
That's still true. There's no doubt the media doesn't care one inkling about America's effort to rebuild that country. I know about this because of of my marine friends. They don't cover it. They cover death and destruction. Everyone knows this is the nature of the media. The news does not publish all the facts. It doesn't concentrate on the good until the bad happens. It only concentrates on the bad and is designed to to have the most pronounced effect of the average american psyche.


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Oh wait thats just what your arguing here eh comrade....well dos vedonia or however you spell it my little soviet booster! Shoot from now on I christen thee.... "little pooter".... in honor of your heartfelt whining for a more Soviet America!
Now that's just silly Liberalman.

Well yeah its silly that was the point....little pooter....sorry couldn't resist! LOL
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Me: You cant possibly be that stupid. What possible reason would we have to nuke you? Cuba would be utterly powerless to stop us, yet we have never nuked them.

The USA already tried to attack Cuba.
Please post your source stating that the US has attacked Cuba with nukes.

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Now the USA place missiles in Poland and expand NATO (contrary to promises to Gorbachev) to borders of Russia.
1) Russia is not our enemy, despite your best attempts to portray them as one. We have no war with Russia, cold or otherwise. Russia is not the Soviet Union.

2) Even if we did, Russia has sufficient nukes to retaliate no matter where our missiles are. MAD is still in force, even without a war.

3) The missiles are not designed for attack, but for defense against other missiles.

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After impact across Iran you receive oil on 200 dollars for barrel.
Um..how? Iran provides less than 5% of our total oil. Removing 5% of our oil will not make prices rise to $200 a barrel. Sorry.

There are many other sources of oil besides Iran...Not the least of which are Canada and Mexico.

And dont fool yourself...Defense will ALWAYS trump economy...always. That is even true of most American liberals. If Americans believe they are at risk militarily, no amount of economic consequences will deter us from attacking.

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If Minister of Defence of the USA names Russia among possible enemies and the army of the USA trains to a nuclear attack across Russia - war with Russia NOT the PARANOIA
The Minister of Defense does not Define such policy for us.

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Ok! Kosovo has ethnic clensing NOW for serbs...
Yeah, dont knock yourself out providing actual proof or anything, heh heh

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And from what you have solved, what Saddam was the dictator? It just before war has been re-elected... By the way as you explain, what after overthrow of the dictator of Iraquis was lost more, than at Saddam?
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.

If you mean "Is your situation better now than when Saddam was in power" my answer is a definite "yes". No question. I much prefer what we have now to an Iraq with Saddam in power.

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Can be to you is better about it tell to Robert Gates? He will better explain to you why the USA it is necessary prepare for war with Russia and China.
I have seen no evidence that Gates views Russia as an enemy. Feel free to post it if you find some.

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Canada is supervised the USA
Um...says who? Canada doesnt seem to think so.

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Russia carries out an independent policy
Who is telling them they cant?

Russia is a democracy. Russia is not an enemy. Sure they are annoying in their puerile support for various dictators and oligarchies, but certainly not any more annoying than France.

We dont consider Russia a threat.

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So, ethnic cleansing inside Serbia was a reason for the US aggression?
In that case, yeah.

(btw - It wasnt just us, but also NATO, which includes most of Europe...so if you are placing blame for aggression, it belongs to Europe as well - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_War - )

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Oh, I forgot - you are World Cop, establishing Law and Order in any part of Globe.
Dont worry...if you forget again I'll be here to remind you. I dont mind doing it. I'm here to help.

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That's why your administration has a cheek to teach governments of other countries what-to-do or what-not-to-do.
It's a dirty job, but someone's got to do it.

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I suppose, someday some World Criminal will beat a mug of this World Cop.
And maybe we'll discover Unicorns and Bigfoot and the Lock Ness Monster too. Anything is possible...but I wouldnt hold your breath.
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Looks like the rightwing looks more an more soviet-like every day....Faux News has acted as the propaganda arm and the tireless comrades from the rightwing have done not but whine abotu how "all the good things are not reported"....I would have to guess that this would be a move supported by the neocons/conservative Bushies.
You think its propaganda because you don't believe in anything you silly liberal. Fox news isn't essentially propaganda because its the only conservative news station yet has the largest news audience by far. Do you really believe the liberal crap that you say or are you some rediculous mouth-piece hell bent on destroying everything our ancestor's sought,fought,worked and died for? Also, I don't support it because I'm a neo-con which itself makes no god(*)(*)(*)(*) sense and has no visible corrolation. I think it's a good idea because I'm sick of having bad news shoved down my thorat and headlining the god(*)(*)(*)(*) paper every freaken day. The only news in the news that isn't bad news is news they deem as good news because it furthers their stupid liberal destructive agenda. Which you would realize if you believed in anything.

So the conservative media reports the good news and the liberal news reports the bad news. And we are free to come to our own conclusions. Isn't that a good thing? Personally I think the bad news outweighs the good news. And I don't think any of it matters until we engage the militias. Until then, we are only fighting half the battle.
I think you and I sputterman will get along just fine.
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Lovely. Russia moving even further from democracy.
I heard on NPR today that Russia is temporarily shutting down foreign adoption... but the stance of the government, an ultra-nationalist stance, is that Russian orphans should stay in Russia.... despite the stigma against orphans in Russia that keeps them in orphanages... orphanages hidden away in the outposts in the Soviet tradition of hiding the stigmatized from the good Soviet masses.
How long before we see a total rebirth of the Soviet Union... albeit fascist rather than communist?
This much control of the media is a clear indication of antidemocratic sentiment... and looks like they want the Cold War back.
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Lovely. Russia moving even further from democracy.
The fact that Russia keeps an independent course in various aspects of policy does not mean "moving further from democracy".

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How long before we see a total rebirth of the Soviet Union... albeit fascist rather than communist?
Neither fascist nor communist.
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