Yes, certainy. France...I can understand why you so hate them

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Internationally, he <Charles De Gaulle> rebuffed both the United States and the Soviet Union, pushing for an independent France with its own nuclear weapons, and strongly encouraged a "Free Europe", believing that a confederation of all European nations would restore the past glories of the great European empires. He set about building Franco-German cooperation as the cornerstone of the European Economic Community (EEC), now the European Union (EU), paying the first state visit to Germany by a French head of state since Napoleon. In 1963, Germany and France signed a treaty of friendship. France also reduced its dollar reserves, trading them for gold from the U.S. government, thereby reducing America's economic influence abroad.

Charles De Gaulle

I think that French guy made a Great Job cutting of any sources of American influence in France.

LoL Really? And what about results of this "job"? Former stable Iraq is converted into hellhole, filled by various international terrorists groups. Your guys are dying there for nothing, almost everyday.
In Serbia a national ultra-nationalistic party won last elections. Leaders of those nationalists hate Americans.
Need more examples?

Let's see shutdown of the free press, assasination of oppososition leaders, retriction and ellimination of NGO's, ethnic cleansing; umm no not moving away from democracy at all

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hahaha! what's sad is you're absolutely wrong, duh. the right is always whining about how every outlet that isn't blatantly conservative isn't painting a pretty picture of the us and the war.

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The people who don't like FOX NEWS can do so, no problem there.
But what I don't understand is why you make it sound like you want
it shut down. do you hear the same kinds of rants from the right, about
CNN, NBC,CBS, MSNBC?

Then there is this thingy about "FOX LIES" boo, huu, first off Fox News like it or not
has HIGH ratings, and really drowns out a lot of the lefty networks, which I myself
must admit is pretty good. You see, while you may hate FOX NEWS, there are
a lot of FOX NEWS HATERS who just can't stop themselves from tuning in.

So you see the Fox News plans for ratings works, they can not only draw in
the right, but they draw in the left too.

Oh, and before I end this, I would like to thank all you lefty's for supporting
FOX NEWS.

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Are you talking about modern Ukraine?

Several minutes ago Putin has declared the moratorium of Russia under obligations of the Contract about Usual Armed forces in the Europe.

You till now consider, what it is all jokes???

YOu should change you hand le to "proof-hater" my boy....here read it again fox went to court and got a ruling that they allowed to lie after being caugh tin a lie....in short trusting what they say is for rubes....hmmm mayhap that could be your new handle!


In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States.
http://www.projectcensored.org/publi...s/2005/11.html

Yeah, pretty much.

The best Russia could possibly hope for is mutual destruction. Thats it. They cant match our conventional military. They certainly cant match our economy. And it is debatable if they can match our technology.

Democracy includes the freedom to make stupid decisions...if you people want to bankrupt yourselves in another futile cold war, be my guest. This time however you will have no one but yourselves to blame.

Who said anything about hate? In fact, I have said on this forum that I do not hate any democracy, including France. My feelings range somewhere between chauvenism and contempt. But not hate.

You mean like Eurodisney and McDonalds?

It is a mistake to think that our only weapons are our politicians and our military.

Really.

The alternatives are worse.

You mean it wasnt a hellhole before?

I like it better without Saddam, even considering the current problems.

So do the French..so what?

Democracies are less volitile than non-democracies. That is a statistical fact. Democracies are far less likely to be a threat to us, no matter how much they hate us.

And war against a democracy would be far easier anyway, since we would not necessarily have to worry about collateral damage. We can hold the masses accountable for the actions of their government. We couldnt do that with Afghanistan or Iraq.

If you have them, then yeah

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That' s pretty good evidence to attack Fox news. The only thing is everyone knew that all along. Fox doesn't have to point out anything. There's no question 80% of everything on TV is a spin, half-truth our out-right lie. It's not just the media. And think, imagine if it became illegal to lie on televsion. imagine how big of an agency you would need to police it and enforce the law. The truth is, as you get older, the more you realize how everything is controlled by politics. Example: If you go online and try to get statistics about something that could lead you to political conclusions, you will often find data that directly contradicts other data. Why? Because it's bad for politics if people had access to the definitive truth of everything. It's to confuse and bewilder you. It will never end because democracy prerogatives are decided and carried out under the logic of the dominant perception of the government at the time and not on any definitive answer. Definitive answers are absolute and therefore not democratic and certainly not fit for a two party system. Sigh.

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