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Old 06-16-2004, 01:16 AM
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Turkenmenbashi level is 100%, I just used it as an extreme of what "democracies" can in theory have. (Though that is no democracy, he got 99% if I remember correctly)
BUT: Victory pro-American Giorgia presidents with more 90% is declared as a victory of democracy...
I'm not sure how fair the elections were in Georgia, but I gather it was pretty a clear vote. Not many candidates.

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BUT: Russian opposition has more wide political spectr As against the American opposition. State-owened only two TV-chanel from 10-16 radio TV-channel or 20-40 cable TV-channel. "The Commersant" - most popular newspaper belongs to the enemy of the Kremlin Beresovsky...
That's new... The majority of TV stations are state controlled. Newspapers, I have been told are more free and do criticize the president. The US is claimed to have a "liberal" media but it is not state controlled.


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Bush has typed less, than 50 % and are less than Gore, that on mine not correspond to principles of democracy...
The last US election was completely disgraceful, I'm hoping this next one will be better.
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Ok! IMHO most of all the USSR remind the USA. My friend visited USA, Qwince, Illinois at 1995 said what "USA like as Brezhnev USSR".
But if your friend thinks the US is like Brezhnev's USSR, then I cannot understand how communism collapsed.
1. In your opinion in the USA there are no problems?
2. The USSR has collapsed because of economic mistakes admitted at the end of 70
1. There are problems in the US, but not great enough to tear apart the US.
2. Exactly, unlike the US in the 90's.

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Off topic, where in Russia are you from?
I'm from St-Petersburg
Helsinki, Finland. Not that far away.
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Old 06-16-2004, 01:33 AM
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BUT: Russian opposition has more wide political spectr As against the American opposition. State-owened only two TV-chanel from 10-16 radio TV-channel or 20-40 cable TV-channel. "The Commersant" - most popular newspaper belongs to the enemy of the Kremlin Beresovsky...
That's new... The majority of TV stations are state controlled.
Opps... "majority of TV " - RTR and ORT. I have (without cable TV) 16 TV channels... 2/16=12.5% ONLY!!!
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Newspapers, I have been told are more free and do criticize the president. The US is claimed to have a "liberal" media but it is not state controlled.
Opps... I remember as on CNN showed war in Iraq... " US Amry has grasped Kerbella, it already the third Kerbella which was grasped by Americans... "

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Bush has typed less, than 50 % and are less than Gore, that on mine not correspond to principles of democracy...
The last US election was completely disgraceful, I'm hoping this next one will be better.
No this is FACT! Bush has typed less, than 50 % and are less than Gore... Putin has 72%...

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But if your friend thinks the US is like Brezhnev's USSR, then I cannot understand how communism collapsed.
1. In your opinion in the USA there are no problems?
2. The USSR has collapsed because of economic mistakes admitted at the end of 70
1. There are problems in the US, but not great enough to tear apart the US.
In the USSR up to 1991 too so thought
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2. Exactly, unlike the US in the 90's.
Enron, WorldCom, DJ 12K->10K, Iraq... I hope that is so little problem...
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Helsinki, Finland. Not that far away.
I was in Helsinki in 2001 and 2002...
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