Thread: Perestroika/Glasnost

Gorbachev was the destroyer of Soviet Union His weakness let capitalist to rise up. From my personal point of view he gave to workers hard time, as we do know we lost jobs, privatised industries. The trouble I see is disaster.
Any your views would be grateful thanks.

How disappointing for you that nobody has yet replied .
I hoped one or two Russians would have predictably told us how useless he was -- as they usually do .
i think he was the most significant leader of the second half of the century .
His Strategy and Objectives were exemplary -- he was light years ahead of his contemporaries .
But amazingly he forgot key factors re. execution of his plans , and this was his undoing .To have any chance of success he needed the Communist Party , the Military and the KGB on his side .
None were .
The rest is History .
I find it absolutely amazing that someone so visionary could believe that he would be able to run before he had checked if he could even crawl through the mess that was political Russia in the eighties .
A great guy who needed someone next to him to do the practical thinking for him .

Originally Posted by Sovietskaja Zenzina

Gorbachev was the destroyer of Soviet Union His weakness let capitalist to rise up. From my personal point of view he gave to workers hard time, as we do know we lost jobs, privatised industries. The trouble I see is disaster.
Any your views would be grateful thanks.

Remember.

Originally Posted by EvilAztec

[ pretty picture of Evil's Dad

Just to remind you , Evil , that the picture you have flashed is of Boris ( I know you are very forgetful -- Smolensk etc ). The one you Russians preferred and rightly still feel embarrassed about .
Try re-reading my Post and concentrate on the division between Strategy and Objectives versus attempted solutions .
The former were excellent . The latter were nonsense in the circumstances .

I'll just say that 1 person cannot take the burden of collapse of a machinery.

Originally Posted by raymondo

How disappointing for you that nobody has yet replied .
I hoped one or two Russians would have predictably told us how useless he was -- as they usually do .
i think he was the most significant leader of the second half of the century .
His Strategy and Objectives were exemplary -- he was light years ahead of his contemporaries .
But amazingly he forgot key factors re. execution of his plans , and this was his undoing .To have any chance of success he needed the Communist Party , the Military and the KGB on his side .
None were .
The rest is History .
I find it absolutely amazing that someone so visionary could believe that he would be able to run before he had checked if he could even crawl through the mess that was political Russia in the eighties .
A great guy who needed someone next to him to do the practical thinking for him .

Grishka Otrepjev was the great guy from this point of view too.

Originally Posted by raymondo

Just to remind you , Evil , that the picture you have flashed is of Boris ( I know you are very forgetful -- Smolensk etc ). The one you Russians preferred and rightly still feel embarrassed about .
Try re-reading my Post and concentrate on the division between Strategy and Objectives versus attempted solutions .
The former were excellent . The latter were nonsense in the circumstances .

Just in any case let me remind to you Ray, who sees within lenghts of his own nose (England, the eternal fog, etc.) that the perfectly is nothing new you can not say , just
once again demonstrated your penchant to Verbal diarrhea.
Gorbachev now constantly whines and occasionally barking at Russia .
By the way He have a good pension from the U.S. State Department.

[QUOTE=raymondo;1060910879]How disappointing for you that nobody has yet replied .

No I am not disappointed at all what make you to think like that?



"I would ask you have you ever lived in Soviet Union.
The new party project of capitalism undoubtedly segregated countries and how on hell he got Nobel Prize when ex Soviet countries drowned to civil wars, casualties, migrations.

Originally Posted by frozy

I'll just say that 1 person cannot take the burden of collapse of a machinery.

You are right in part, but in part only. In any case Gorbachev was the person which has started the process of collapse. The lack of talent in a policy, his not skill to make reform sometimes is worse than a crime.

Originally Posted by Potap

Grishka Otrepjev was the great guy from this point of view too.

Another genius!!!!
I put the Search Engine on him but could find nothing in English .
Any links?


Evil , Have you got diarrhea again ? Is it psychosomatic ? You ought not to be drinking so often on an empty stomach .
We are talking about Gorbachev , not planes and submarines .
Have you heard of him ? Very fine fellow .