Flag waving has no bearing on the legitimacy of the nation either way. So why does it matter at all?

America and most of the free world have declared that the nation of Kosovo exists.


Kosovo is not politically subordinate to Albania. So your claim is factually inaccurate.

If the Kosovo government decides to go against the wishes of the Albanian government, what will Albania do about it? They would be just a impotent as Serbia would be in that situation. (See? You guys have something in common with Albania after all)



Albania is incapable of annexing land from another nation.

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they cant legally.. i dont think it would happen but if it does, i dont think theres a doubt in anyones mind that another war will start because of it. the region is sunstable as it is.

They cant illegally either. Their military is weak.


We'll end that one too. Kosovo is under NATO protection....which means American protection by proxy.

But I don't think Albania wants to annex Kosovo anyway, so the point is moot. Albania was one of the first nations to recognize Kosovo as a sovereign nation. They would not have done that if they planned on annexing it.

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good points. do you think that albania would try to defend kosovo if serbia attacked?

The political climate will have had to have changed so much for Kosovo to be directly attacked that it isn't worth discussing.

How did we always wind up talking about this stuff?

Though somewhat relevantly to this thread what has the Serb armed forces been up to in the last decade? Up arming or haven't you got anything new?

Sorry about the double post this sight doesn't let you edit.

Anyway on the subject of other forces in the region. Is it true that India has the best Russian air superiority fighter? I recall hearing (maybe from Grond???) that the Su-30MKI was the best air superiority fighter of Russian make. But that's a modification of the Su-30 that India flies not Russia. It would be interesting if India had a regional lead on that.

China is still supposed to be behind the curve though right? With their Chengdu J-10's and Su-27 varients.

Yeah...the J-10 is the best they have right now. I debunked it in another forum. All old technology, most of it bought from foreigners.


Likely it would be a coalition, and Albania would be only a small part of it.

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Why in Earth would Albania try to annex Kosovo? If NATO forces leave the province (which I doubt) Kosovo's parliament will declare the state of union with Albania, which is their ultimate goal after all. And it is according to the concept of Greater Albania.

They are US loyal kholops. That speaks about it. Why doesn't Chavez recognize Kosovo?

Would you Americans be a nation if you waved British flags? It has to do with identity.

I believe Cuba and Argentina to be some of the representatives of the "free world". Free from US hegemony, free from US capitalists, not dependent on US military and proud enough to tell Uncle Sam to go kiss their "you know what".

Serbia won't attack anyone.Serbia defends her position exclusively within the international law. There will be no war. Period.

Serbian army is weaker than ever. It goes through a tough period of restructuring, since drafting is to be abolished in 2010 and professional army to be established.

I didn't make the claim that they would. I was arguing why such an action would be futile.


They can declare anything they want so long as Kosovo remains free to make it's own choices. Albania's internal decisions are their own concern. Just as Serbia is free to cross its arms and pout.



Because he hates the US, and opposes anything that could possibly make the US look good.

Yes, he is that petty. He's like a cartoon character.


Yes. Many Americans wave Mexican flags. There bars here in in Denver that display Irish and British flags. The waving of flags has nothing to do with sovereignty.


You believe wrong. Cuba is even less free than Iran, and Iran is not free.

Even if they were, my statement would still be accurate. Read it again.


Well...their leaders are anyway. No one ever asked their people. So we have no way of knowing what the Cuban People think either way.

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Well a fair number of them seem to think it's worth it to risk this:



to have a chance of getting into the US.

I worry about Serbia ending up in the same straights. I don't mean that like a threat I mean I worry about you guys spazzing over the Kosovo thing and committing economic suicide by tanking trade relations with the west when you could be enjoying relations with both Russia and the west.