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Old 02-22-2008, 12:53 PM
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Its good when 90% of drug goes across Kosovo from Afghanistan,independence of Kosovo means that now drug tradeship is legal now with de facto democracy,which never will work in society of drug dillers and muslims,how can be region democratic if president of Kosovo ex terrorist which killed native serbs in Kosovo by his Ak-47,better that Bush did not shoot native indians,but Tachi done it.
Exactly! That's what I'm talking about. It has nothing to do with oppression of the Albanians, it is all about control of the roads of heroin, military bases, and strong undeniable influence to the Balkans and all of Southern Europe.
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...of the human world of arrogant rednecks and illiterate hillbillies. Right.
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...of the human world of arrogant rednecks and illiterate hillbillies. Right.
It must be pretty humiliating to know you've been eclipsed by a bunch of arrogant rednecks and illiterate hillbillies.
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Sadistic Savior, let me try to break this down for you. The Mujahideen, in American terms is a Muslim guerilla terrorist unit. They were originally formulated and equipped by the US and CIA. They were funded and kept secret by the US, China, Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and others. Our ‘friends’, the Saudi’s produced a certain Osama Bin Laden who originally helped the US fund this group, later he became head of the Afghan division - which branched out into most divisions known to date.

All of this was a result of US fear of the USSR, and the Mujahideen became the victors after the soviets pulled out of Afghanistan. The groups began fighting amongst themselves which produced the Taliban (all of this began with Reagan – yeah he was such a great president). Our friendly Saudi’s educated the Taliban in tactics and warfare, using methods from the US. What does all this have to do with Kosovo?

Thousands of Mujahideen (aka Taliban) fighters took over the ranks of the KLA in the nineties, because of their superior fighting abilities (over 10% of the KLA are former Taliban members).

Actually, you can trace the insurgency of every Muslim extremist attack in every Muslim country or region from the Mujahideen in the last 10 years; all because our wonderful Reagan decided to make a fun ‘freedom fighter’ unit. And our wonderful Bush is fighting the ‘freedom fighters’ in the Middle East but…he is letting them into power in Kosovo. Sounds like a plan! Five stars Mister Bush! This is why the world is angry with Mr. Bush and America for backing the KLA. It is hypocritical, idiotic, and suicidal.

The KLA hardly represents the Muslim people of Kosovo. They are a guerilla terrorist unit, do you think the honorable Muslims of Kosovo have a shot in hell at speaking out against them? If you do, think again and rethink it again until you are sure you are right with your decision to back a terrorist insurrection.


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“Far from ignorant of al-Qaeda in Albania, the US appears to have had an uneasy relationship with them. Illustrates Tirana based Gazeta Shqiptare: “The arrests of Ahmed Ibrahim Al Naggar and Mohammed Hassan Mahmoud, and the extradition of the director of the Revival of Islamic Legacy foundation as a jihad collaborator in Tirana in June 1998, the arrest of Amoid Naji in Turin of Italy and his deposition before Italian investigators that he was in Albania to blow up the US embassy in Tirana, and other facts of this kind go to prove that the activity of terrorist jihad organizations is present and well-organized in Albania.”” – M. Bozinovich
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Kosovans aren't though.

They have been oppressed by the Serbians for too long, sort of like the American's were when the British were there (but alot worse, like Genocide worse).

I completely support Kosovan independece and think that American troops should be deployed there to show our support. We still can make the Russian's blink. And hopefully we will to nip this Resurgent Russia in the bud.

We need to make it clear who still calls the shots.
You know I don't agree with you on much Fear but I think for once I think it may be the right thing to rattle the saber a little (or at least try and get NATO to do it.)

I think it would be a bad idea to set a precedent for being oblivious to Russia ballooning right back up to it's former size and influence.

But with them sitting flush with so much oil and natural gas (and us running on empty) I am not sure we can really stop them in the long run.
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USA/Canda/Mexico is sitting on some of the largest oil and gas reserves in the world. We just haven't bothered to exploit them.
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USA/Canda/Mexico is sitting on some of the largest oil and gas reserves in the world. We just haven't bothered to exploit them.
Perhaps you do sit on such gas reserves, but Europe does not. And as long as Russia supplies the gas to Europe, the political influence shall be stronger and stronger.
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Which is why, regardless of whether we ethically or politically back this new indipendence, we need to keep Russia from regaining this territory. If they do, we set a terrible precedent, and other countries looking to leave Russian rule will think thrice before they do, knowing that America and the "Free World" might not back them.
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Which is why, regardless of whether we ethically or politically back this new indipendence, we need to keep Russia from regaining this territory.
You are digging a deep, comfortable Grave for so-called American Superiority. Sad that you can not understand it.
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