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However, We Americans cannot alienate the Muslim world anymore, they need to be brought into the fold. America needs to back Kosovan Independence to show Muslims worldwide that America will stand for any country gaining independence from an oppressor.
I think that America should not back Kosovar Independence. European political affairs have absolutely nothing to do with you.

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Russia will be forced to bow down if America puts substantial amounts of troops in the region.
Too much Tom Clancy's novels tonight? Or maybe PC games like Call of Duty, eh? Try to live in real world, bud.

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... it will only result in pushing NATO together against the Bear yet again. ANd we all remember what happened last time the West did that
Do you mean those cult Rambo movies? Yeah, that semi-naked pretty guy ( a gay, huh?) looked out enough funny when tried to fight Mil-24 gunships by bow and arrows... Nice comedy!
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Аs i understand Kosovo albanians killed some 2000 serbs in last 9 years .
More than milosevic have killed albanians in all theese years of dictatorship ?

Strange ?
Also Kosovo albanians wore nazi allies during ww2.
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You live in a delushional world. Russia cannot match America militarily or economically. While you guys are weaker than before the USSR collapsed, the US has only gotten stronger.

Democracy and Capitalism will always beat Totalitarianism, Oligarchal, Croneyism state. If NATO unite on this one, Russia is out. Russia cannot beat NATO and if you cut off our gas, we'll be forced to look elsewhere. We'll take our money away and bye bye goes the Russian raw material economy.
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I don't care about russia on this one !

I just don't understand US support for Kosovo terrorist ?
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I don't care about russia on this one !

I just don't understand US support for Kosovo terrorist ?
So do we want to show the Muslim world we will not stand up for their brothers when they declare independence from oppressors? Isn't that what we are trying to encourage? If so, why not?

Aren't we meant to be convincing the Muslim world to move towards Democracy and persecute the Fundamentalists? Kosovo has proven it can run a Democracy simply by declaring Independence, we American's managed to wing it.

Kosovar terrorists do exist of course, but shouldn't we encourage them by rejecting their fledgling democracy and bringing them into the fold? If we don't, we'll have to deal with even more disillushioned Muslim youths. Send a clear bold message that if the population overthrow oppressors, we will back them. This is the best way to spread Democracy. Our troops don't have to fight, they just have to stay there until the Kosovan's can stand on their own.

Might as well leave a few bases there, just to reassure everyone we mean business.
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So do we want to show the Muslim world we will not stand up for their brothers when they declare independence from oppressors? Isn't that what we are trying to encourage? If so, why not?

Aren't we meant to be convincing the Muslim world to move towards Democracy and persecute the Fundamentalists? Kosovo has proven it can run a Democracy simply by declaring Independence, we American's managed to wing it.

Kosovar terrorists do exist of course, but shouldn't we encourage them by rejecting their fledgling democracy and bringing them into the fold? If we don't, we'll have to deal with even more disillushioned Muslim youths. Send a clear bold message that if the population overthrow oppressors, we will back them. This is the best way to spread Democracy. Our troops don't have to fight, they just have to stay there until the Kosovan's can stand on their own.

Might as well leave a few bases there, just to reassure everyone we mean business.
Yes , you a right there !
But what about serbs?
We accept kosovo but serbs have established new democratic country few years back.
Now we reward terrorist but deny new democratc serbia ?
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Grond,

You live in a delushional world. Russia cannot match America militarily or economically. While you guys are weaker than before the USSR collapsed, the US has only gotten stronger....
Democracy and Capitalism will always beat Totalitarianism, Oligarchal, Croneyism state. If NATO unite on this one, Russia is out. Russia cannot beat NATO and if you cut off our gas, we'll be forced to look elsewhere. We'll take our money away and bye bye goes the Russian raw material economy.
Slogans, buddy, nothing more than empty pseudo-patriotic slogans....You are still loosing your guys and girls in "defeated" Iraq and Afganistan. You, a Bastion of Capitalism and Democracy totally lost war in Vietnam, a completely backward country (by your own definition).Those Moslems from Albania are manipulating you like puppet-master manipulate his plywood toys. Enjoy you stupid role, if you wish. That's all.
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Аs i understand Kosovo albanians killed some 2000 serbs in last 9 years .
More than milosevic have killed albanians in all theese years of dictatorship ?

Strange ?
Also Kosovo albanians wore nazi allies during ww2.
An analogy :

Saudis were among 9/11 hijackers, right? Saudi King-whatever-his-name is a dictator. But it is very important everytime to call yourself as "a friend of America". And don't forget : cry about Love to Democracy and Freedom aloud . That's all. Albanian thugs are doing the very same nowadays. Some of them are shouting about Freedom and Independence, while others are preparing terroristic plot....
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Following 8 years of United Nations control and billions of dollars of international aid, Kosovo is a lawless region "owned" by the Albanian mafia. It is characterized by continuing ethnic cleansing and subject to increasing infiltration by al-Qaida-linked Muslim jihadists, according to a whistleblower interviewed by Cybercast News Service.

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Following 8 years of United Nations control and billions of dollars of international aid, Kosovo is a lawless region "owned" by the Albanian mafia. It is characterized by continuing ethnic cleansing and subject to increasing infiltration by al-Qaida-linked Muslim jihadists, according to a whistleblower interviewed by Cybercast News Service.

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/...7/101219.shtml
Which is another reason we need to get involved in the region, lack of our support will only increase this type of activity.

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Putin will lead your country into another Cold War. He will also prove how Market Capitalism beats every other form of economic management. Putin's 'finger in every pie' philosophy will backfire on him just like it has for every other Oligarchal Croney state.
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