The EU will side with America in a war, we already know this. Russia will not unless we provide healthy relations.

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Rome and France are two examples.

Unless it were supressed by another type of forefront government, much like we do today.

I do not think so, democracy cannot expand but to the limitations of her people, not other nations.

Rightly - The US is a democratic republic. Which means she is a republic nonetheless.


Democracy is not the ultimate form of government. It is only the best out of those which have been tried so far. Other governments are not inherently evil if they are foreign to western thought. Do not think socialism is not powerful, if there is no great dictatorship of the proletariat it is more powerful than democracy in many ways. This is an American attitude - ours is the best and always will be. But why did we institute so many socialist policies over the last 150 years if democracy is the greatest form of government? Why did it take a socialist plan to pull America from the bootstraps in the 1930's? Because democracy is not the be-all end-all of government.

Attempts at cooperation are hardly limiting, we did not even try with Kosovo. They blinked and we gave the knee-jerk reaction.

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Dear friends, in order to realize the situation in Kosovo you have to go way back in history and gather some information of relevance.
Kosovo is THE HEART of Serbia, a myth nonetheless. In Kosovo, Serbian medieval forces STOPPED Turkish envaders whose primary goal was Austria and other christian countries of Europe. Europe is obliged to thank Serbian people for a 5 century long fight against the envaders. During that fight, the Turks brought islam to the region, and many Albanians accepted the new religion. Serbs DID NOT, and remained loyal to christianity. Serbian historical victory is much greater and much more important to Europe than all of those crusade losses.
What happens now? All of you CNN and BBC children believe everything you hear, because you do not have an option. And I understand you. But recognizing former Nazzi allies as democrats, recognizing a completely criminal, far away from civilization nation as freedom fighters, is a mistake that will come back like a bumerang to the West.
Albanians have been bribing western politicans for decades to fight for their cause, and with bllody money made by drug trafficing.
Serbs are a peace loving and proud nation, and will come back to Kosovo one day.
One day!

This sheds light on the religious situation which was a bit unclear, thank you.

And I do think the media is playing the side of Kosovo for 'sentimental' reasons on the tube, but the truth is they are banking from this off ignorant westerners who believe in the spread of democracy and their 'right and just' causes in the world.

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The Albanians are lucky because of the fact that Serbia is tired of wars.
But never forget one fact! Serbs are probably the best natural born soldiers in the world.

In WW1, the allies won the war thanks to Serbian crushing the much superior in numbers Bulgarian army.

Look at this: 67,000 Serbian soldiers crushed the Bulgarian First army consisting of 700,000 soldiers who were defending (which gives them at least 3 to 1 advantage). After the capitulation of Bulgaria, the WW1 came to an end.

Believe on thing: the Serbs would not need any Russian help if anybody tried to invade it by land, including Americans. They would be driven away and would suffer much greater losses than in Vietnam.

And why is that for? Because nobody is allowed to mess with the sacred graves of Serbian ancestors who gave their lives for Serbian freedom.

The Serbs have suffered like no nation EVER in history!!!! In WW1 the Serbs lost 25% of population. In WW2, the Serbs lost almost 2 million people in the war. And if somebody believes that it is easy to come here and take a piece of heart to someone, than he should be completely crazy.

Vietnam was a jungle war. The US military knows how to fight an urban war with a distinct opponent, even if it is guerilla-style. But yes, America should have pulled their hat out of the ring while they had the chance to minimize international conflict.

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I agree, but Serbs would not fight in the streets, but in the mountains instead, where nobody ever managed to conquer them.

By the way, the Americans would be crushed in Serbia, if they attacked it without using the sophisticated weapons and surveillance systems.

Remeber, SERBIA IS NOT IRAQ!

The variables are different. They did not have access to our technology. That is why they were unable to maintain their empires.

In the information age that is no longer an issue. Orders can be sent and received is mere seconds, anywhere on the planet.


How are we suppressing anyone?


Democracy is superior to every form of government developed so far. The empirical evidence supports this conclusion. The most powerful nation in history is a democracy, and the vast majority of powerful modern nations are democracies.



So you really have no way of knowing that Democracy is not the ultimate form of government, right?


All of the existing alternatives to democracy are inherently evil. Until I see an exception to this rule, I am willing to assume that all non-democracies are evil by default.



Socialism and democracy are not mutually exclusive. Socialism is an economic model, not a political model.


Pretty much. We don't know that it always will be, but we assume so.


Because socialism and democracy are not mutually exclusive. See above.


We were a democracy then, and we are still a democracy now. What changed?



Good. I hope this is the beginning of a trend. We should not cooperate with anyone who favors oppressing people. Negotiation is irrelevant.


Historical origins are irrelevant. I don't really care how important a piece of dirt is to the Serbians. They could have chosen not to oppress the Kosovo minority, and thus retain their control of this "sacred land". They refused to do that. The Serbs had the initiative.

Now they will have to deal with the consequences of their actions.


Kosovo will become it's own nation, free of Serbian oppression. There is nothing they can do about it. We back Kosovo independence, and we are much stronger than the Serbs are. Resistance is futile.


If they come back by violent means, they will regret it.

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I guess it sucks for the Serbians that we have sophisticated weapons and surveillance systems huh?



I agree. They have no oil, and they are weaker.


Even assuming that is true (though I don't believe that myself) it will not enable the Serbians to resist us if push comes to shove. We could bomb their nation into powder from the sky and there isn't anything they could do to stop us.

Serbia is fortunate we are not share the Soviet or Chinese mentality. It could be a lot worse. Count your blessings.



Why would we want to invade Serbia? What does Serbia have that we want?


Yeah, I think I hear the smallest violin in the world playing right now.

No sob story in the world is sad enough to make us ignore Serbia oppression. Sorry.

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There was no opression, the Serbs were fighting terrorists which were trained in Al Kaeda military camps, and armed by the USA. The Serbs never opressed the ordinary people, these are CNN lies.

Hahaha, very funny. Who the hell do you think you are? A typical, full of EDIT, knowing-everything, American... Funny to say, but you are far away from the power you had under Clinton. And the whole world hates you. Finally, in a century or so, you will end up in tatters.

Kosovo will be Serbian again, don't you worry about that.