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MOSCOW - Russia denounced Kosovo's independence declaration Sunday, warning that the move threatened to ignite a new conflict in the Balkans and calling on NATO and U.N. officials in the territory to nix the decision.


Russia requested a meeting of the U.N. Security Council, which held closed-door talks Sunday afternoon. Russia, which has veto power on the council, wants the council to renew efforts — long-since pronounced dead by the U.S. and other Western nations — to reach a negotiated settlement of Kosovo's status.

Kosovo's parliament approved the declaration of independence from Serbia, backed by the U.S. and European allies. Kosovo had formally remained a part of Serbia even though it has been administered by the U.N. and NATO since 1999, when NATO airstrikes ended former Yugoslav leader Slobodan Milosevic's crackdown on ethnic Albanian separatists.

Russia's Foreign Ministry, lashing out within minutes of the declaration, said Russia supports Serbia's "just demands to restore the country's territorial integrity." It said nations backing Kosovo's claim were supporting separatism and would shake "the foundations of a world order that has developed over decades."

Russia claimed the declaration violates the U.N. Charter ensuring the territorial integrity of member nations and threatens "the escalation of tension and ethnic violence in the region, a new conflict in the Balkans."

The ministry urged the U.N. mission and NATO forces in Kosovo to carry out their mandate by "annulling the decisions of the Pristina government organs and taking severe administrative measures against them."

Russia has stressed its opposition to any decision on Kosovo's status that is not accepted by Serbia. It has warned that recognition of Kosovo by the United States and other nations would encourage separatists in the former Soviet Union, across Europe and around the world.

Russia is widely expected to block recognition of Kosovo in the United Nations and continue backing traditional ally Serbia
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So do we(NATO etc) fight for Kosovo if need be?

Or hand it back because....

"How horrible, fantastic, incredible, it is that we should be digging trenches and trying on gas-masks here because of a quarrel in a faraway country between people of whom we know nothing."
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After all its just some lines on a map..






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I think its the very beginnings of a Cold War like situation...at least for a while.
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This was from Bubba Clinton's expedition into an area where the US has no interest. The US could give the Kosovans moral and diplomatic support as a would-be democracy, but we don't need to be involved in any more eurowars.
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Last time we left the Europeans to sort their problems out, they got into 2 world wars. Kosovo has a right to be free from the people who ethnically cleansed and oppressed them for too long.

Put 20000 Marines in Kosovo, at the discretion of the Kosovan Government. That should make America's position quite clear

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Russia will do nothing if we this. We need to make it crystal clear that we call the shots.

I am interested in China's opinions on the matter........
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I say we should take russia out, while it's still a small crap hole.

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Maybe not Nuke them, but show them how the world still works........

We don't want to upset the Unipolarity now do we?
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Yaaaa - sure. **personal attack deleted**
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Yaaaa - sure.

Kosovo has been oppressed for too long. It disgusts me. Russia backing the Serbians is disgusting. Oppression in all forms needs to be corrected. If we can help the Kosovans and show the Russians that we play hard ball still, in one go, then why not?

Russia is pathetic to challenge the US so early after beginning the road of recovery, let us put them back in their place.
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Russia backing the Serbians is disgusting. Oppression in all forms needs to be corrected.... Russia is pathetic to challenge the US so early after beginning the road of recovery, let us put them back in their place.
Well, well, well... I think it would be better to have a person from Russia on this forum to talk about the last news... You have the one point of view and I have another one. I beg you pardon for my English, but I hope you'll understand me.

You told that Russia is backing the Serbians, and you think it's disgusting. Is it more disgusting than massacre that Albanians did? They cut out the whole families, including old mens and womens, childrens and their parents. They forced the Serbians to get out from their native land.

Yes, Russia backes the Serbians and we will do that again and again. You want to put us in our place. Hmm... Hitler thought the same way... We all know what happened with him.
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Do you want to play a game?







(you may not know what I mean at all so......if you're russian...so...

Do you want to fight Global Thermonuclear War over it?

Both our countries can still exterminate every living thing on this planet in 30 minutes.

I suppose we can still fight a conventional world war..after all we fought World War II and for the most part nobody used Poison Gas. Course gas doesn't have the the same potential that nuclear weapons do.

How about we just sit and make faces at each other until you collapse again.
After all there's plenty of other people we can both sell weapons to and bomb when we get an itch for the real thing.

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Put 20000 Marines in Kosovo, at the discretion of the Kosovan Government. That should make America's position quite clear ...
**personal attack deleted** Have you even hold an assault rifle, dear brave speaking armchair commando?
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