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Old 02-25-2008, 10:22 AM
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Are you saying that the mass killings/ rapes etc. on women/ children, were a -one-man's- work...? Are you serious??

Serbs are the victims here? Stop trying to make victims out of yourselves when there has been mass graves of YOUR victims on YOUR territory. When will you stop blaming the rest of the world for what has happened to you?!

You're a good example what propaganda can do to someone.
You want to say "Milosevic's propaganda"? No, that's not true. I was on the streets of Belgrade when we crushed his dictatorial regime. I hate Milosevic and everything that he ever did. His lousy power-preserving policy made us look like some kind of butchers.

Yes, Milosevic did some horrible things. I do not deny that.

But Serbian people suffered the most, and the numbers I presented up there are true. The largest number of victims in the Balkan wars (all of them together) are on the Serb side.

I am not blaming the world, I blame Milosevic. But the world used the very Milosevic, kept him in power, made him a "peacemaker" in 1995, shook hands with him... The west can't deny that. That's why I blame them of hypocrisy. They used him because he was an excellent legitimacy for bombing Serbia and taking Kosovo away. Blaming Milosevic for everything was just so popular those years... and yet keeping him in power. After USA took hold of Kosovo (in 1999) and achieved the very goal, Milosevic was not needed any more. He was finished the next year.

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Old 02-25-2008, 11:00 AM
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I see the serbian propaganda is back it at again.
Let it go kosovo is independed now, the only way you going to see kosovo again is on tv.
But your welcome to come visited your orthodox churches if you like, but make sure you live your nationnalistic and xenophobic views at home.

PS; you need a stamp to enter kosovo make sure you get approved by the albanian embassy.

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Old 02-25-2008, 11:02 AM
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PS; you need a stamp to enter kosovo make sure you get approved by the albanian embassy.
Wait. The Albanian embassy? Huh, well I suppose there isn't going to be a Kosovo embassy in Serbia is there.

Actually on that note the new border cuts through towns right? Is it actually going to be fairly easy for people to travel back and forth?

Also I have my doubts the west was trying to position the guy to cause a bombing. It seems like we supported him until he went to far, even after having been warned after the business in Bosnia, and then he said he'd rather be bombed out than surrender Kosovo to ethnic Albanians.

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kosovars are albanian, but as you see the goverment of serbia doesn't recognize kososo as an idenpended state, so they will not allow a kosovo embassy in belgrade, so the only way is to get a stamp from the albanian embassy to enter kosovo.
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Old 02-25-2008, 11:12 AM
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for the one who said albanians from albania hate kosovar albanian got all wrong. I don't know where you got your information but we don't hate our fellow albanians from kosovo. Were are very happy they got independence and wish good luck on their new state.

PS: we as albanians we don't give a rat's ass about religion we are just born muslim but we don't practised.
but like in every country you have some who still believe in religion views.
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Old 02-25-2008, 11:18 AM
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You want to say "Milosevic's propaganda"? No, that's not true. I was on the streets of Belgrade when we crushed his dictatorial regime. I hate Milosevic and everything that he ever did. His lousy power-preserving policy made us look like some kind of butchers.

Yes, Milosevic did some horrible things. I do not deny that.

But Serbian people suffered the most, and the numbers I presented up there are true. The largest number of victims in the Balkan wars (all of them together) are on the Serb side.

I am not blaming the world, I blame Milosevic. But the world used the very Milosevic, kept him in power, made him a "peacemaker" in 1995, shook hands with him... The west can't deny that. That's why I blame them of hypocrisy. They used him because he was an excellent legitimacy for bombing Serbia and taking Kosovo away. Blaming Milosevic for everything was just so popular those years... and yet keeping him in power. After USA took hold of Kosovo (in 1999) and achieved the very goal, Milosevic was not needed any more. He was finished the next year.
Since when was it JUST "Milosevich propaganda", as you like to put it?

It's not, it takes more than just ONE man to do what he did. You had a whole chauvanistic regime backing up this man. What's up with this xenophobic nationalism in Serbia anyway?

Even though Milisevich is gone, as you mentioned above, even TODAY you still have people with the same mindset as Milosevich, i.e the Serbian Prime Minister, Vojislav Kostunica. Isn't Serbia supposed to be a so called "democratic state", yet more than 45 % votes went to him. That's scary!
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Wake up and smell the roses, Serbs are NOT the victims here.
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for the one who said albanians from albania hate kosovar albanian got all wrong. I don't know where you got your information but we don't hate our fellow albanians from kosovo. Were are very happy they got independence and wish good luck on their new state.
Actually as a third party it does seem that way to me. I went to an Albanian forum to try and get them to come here to tell their side of the story(under a different name their forum didn't want to send an e-mail for this username). Theer were plenty of threads there where a lot of Albanians from around the globe were very exited and supporting.

The Albanians in Albania especially so. Though that was mixed with talk of unification....

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Wait. The Albanian embassy? Huh, well I suppose there isn't going to be a Kosovo embassy in Serbia is there.
Of course not, but he needs a bit more education to understand that.
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Show it off, come on! Show some more anger and hatred... At least you will live in constant fear once the NATO forces retreat. But the irony of the situation is this: they will never leave the province. Because it was not you why they came to Kosovo in the first place for.

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Show it off, come on! Show some more anger and hatred... At least you will live in constant fear once the NATO forces retreat.
As opposed to the fear under Serbian oppression before?

In America we have a phrase for that; "empty threat".
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