Political Forum
     

Go Back   Political Forum > Politics by Region > Russia & Eastern Europe


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #151 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2008, 02:41 PM
Sadistic-Savior's Avatar
Sadistic-Savior Sadistic-Savior is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 16,346
usa us colorado
Sadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 96,962
Default

Quote:
Why is that that only American web pages are to be considered true?
Because they have more to lose if they get caught in a lie than non-mainstream websites.

Thats why they are more reliable. Because they have a real incentive to present the facts correctly.
__________________
My Political Blog (Most recent update Oct 3rd) - Which Flame Warrior are you?
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Red Cross - Donate Today    Save the Rainforest
  #152 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2008, 02:42 PM
Sadistic-Savior's Avatar
Sadistic-Savior Sadistic-Savior is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 16,346
usa us colorado
Sadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 96,962
Default

And there are non-American websites that are considered reliable. The BBC comes to mind.
__________________
My Political Blog (Most recent update Oct 3rd) - Which Flame Warrior are you?
Reply With Quote
  #153 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2008, 02:47 PM
AmusedToDeath's Avatar
AmusedToDeath AmusedToDeath is offline
Banned
Guru
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mighty Serbia
Posts: 3,555
serbia
AmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud of
Credits: 14,578
Default

Quote:
Because they have more to lose if they get caught in a lie than non-mainstream websites
Which is what?
Reply With Quote
  #154 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2008, 03:16 PM
Sadistic-Savior's Avatar
Sadistic-Savior Sadistic-Savior is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 16,346
usa us colorado
Sadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 96,962
Default

Marketshare. Because people will not watch them if they believe they are unreliable or too biased.

Marketshare = profit. So no mainstream news organization will risk losing marketshare by being exposed in a lie. Even a small loss can mean millions of dollars of revenue to someone like Fox/CNN/BBC/MSNBC or others.

Non-mainstream sites dont care because they already have no marketshare. So they have a lot less to lose.
__________________
My Political Blog (Most recent update Oct 3rd) - Which Flame Warrior are you?
Reply With Quote
  #155 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2008, 03:18 PM
AmusedToDeath's Avatar
AmusedToDeath AmusedToDeath is offline
Banned
Guru
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mighty Serbia
Posts: 3,555
serbia
AmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud of
Credits: 14,578
Default

Quote:
Because people will not watch them if they believe they are unreliable or too biased.
And how will they believe that if they cannot hear the other side and even want to believe that Americans are all Rambo's who have no casualties in war? Your argument sucks in this specific situation.
Reply With Quote
  #156 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2008, 03:29 PM
Grond's Avatar
Grond Grond is offline
Commentator
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Vladivostok
Posts: 1,319
russia
Grond is a glorious beacon of lightGrond is a glorious beacon of lightGrond is a glorious beacon of lightGrond is a glorious beacon of lightGrond is a glorious beacon of lightGrond is a glorious beacon of light
Credits: 5,220
Talking The Great Iskander Beg...

Quote:
Originally Posted by VOCi View Post
I've got a better Idea..... why don't you type it up.... slap you name on it..... and refer to it in 3rd person????
....
...is spinning in his grave like a rotor inside an alternator looking at modern "albanian warriors"!

2 Amused : good job of Serbian Spetsnaz!!! :thumbs up:
__________________
EU : Portable Stereo AM/FM Radio Cassette Recorder
CIS (Russia) : АМ/ЧМ Stereo Magnitola
US : Boombox (Ghettoblaster)
Reply With Quote
  #157 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2008, 03:32 PM
Grond's Avatar
Grond Grond is offline
Commentator
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Vladivostok
Posts: 1,319
russia
Grond is a glorious beacon of lightGrond is a glorious beacon of lightGrond is a glorious beacon of lightGrond is a glorious beacon of lightGrond is a glorious beacon of lightGrond is a glorious beacon of light
Credits: 5,220
Talking Whatever you....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sadistic-Savior View Post
Because they have more to lose if they get caught in a lie than non-mainstream websites.
Thats why they are more reliable. Because they have a real incentive to present the facts correctly.
...say, bud! Thank you for the nice fresh anecdote about American media!
__________________
EU : Portable Stereo AM/FM Radio Cassette Recorder
CIS (Russia) : АМ/ЧМ Stereo Magnitola
US : Boombox (Ghettoblaster)
Reply With Quote
  #158 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2008, 03:34 PM
AmusedToDeath's Avatar
AmusedToDeath AmusedToDeath is offline
Banned
Guru
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mighty Serbia
Posts: 3,555
serbia
AmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud of
Credits: 14,578
Default

Quote:
good job of Serbian Spetsnaz!!!
Of course it is. Serbs are excellent soldiers Too bad they set those Apaches ablaze with cluster bombs... Pretty expensive devices, don't you think?
Reply With Quote
  #159 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2008, 03:35 PM
Sadistic-Savior's Avatar
Sadistic-Savior Sadistic-Savior is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 16,346
usa us colorado
Sadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 96,962
Default

Quote:
And how will they believe that if they cannot hear the other side and even want to believe that Americans are all Rambo's who have no casualties in war?
Because Americans have access to many different types of media. We have no media that is outlawed, and we receive news from many different sources (not the least of which is the internet).

There are many many Americans that share your views. If they could catch CNN/FOX/whoever in a lie and prove it, they would do so in a heartbeat. CNN/FOX/MSNBC know this, which is why they will never actually lie about a fact deliberately, although they will spin it in favor of their position.


Quote:
Your argument sucks in this specific situation.
Believe what you want. I'm explaining why no one will buy your biased sources. If you want to convince anyone who doesn't already agree with you, you will need to use mainstream media sources.
__________________
My Political Blog (Most recent update Oct 3rd) - Which Flame Warrior are you?
Reply With Quote
  #160 (permalink)  
Old 02-26-2008, 03:39 PM
AmusedToDeath's Avatar
AmusedToDeath AmusedToDeath is offline
Banned
Guru
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mighty Serbia
Posts: 3,555
serbia
AmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud of
Credits: 14,578
Default

Yes, but in this specific situation you cannot find mainstream media. NATO forces' websites (which you consider mainstream and accurate) are too shy to tell everyone that an old fashioned G4 Super Galeb (not even supersonic) destroyed 12 brand new pieces of military equipment - so praised around the world... It would be a hard blow, don't you think? Not to mention Zoltan Dani Grond knows who I'm talking about
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Over 700.000 serbs demonstrate tonight against the illegal Kosovo independence..... Markoni Political Opinions & Beliefs 97 02-28-2008 08:18 AM
Civil riot dano Civil Liberties 6 10-17-2007 11:24 AM
Cincinnati Will Be A Riot 88punx New World Order 24 04-16-2007 06:17 PM
Riot in Kabul nawbut Middle East 20 06-01-2006 11:56 AM
The Anti-Pro-Palestinian Protest Protest catzmeow Political Opinions & Beliefs 7 09-13-2004 12:12 PM

Sponsored Links

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:19 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0
Template-Modifikationen durch TMS
vBCredits v1.3 ©2007 by Darkwaltz4
Advertisement System V2.1 By   Branden