Serbs not happy...100's of thousands protest/riot in Belgrade. - Page 17

Grond · #**161** (**permalink**) 02-26-2008, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AmusedToDeath

Not to mention Zoltan Dani

Grond knows who I'm talking about

Da Man!

Btw, I used to read about second stealth hit down/or damaged by serbian SAM. Could you provide a link at this info?

Tedminator · #**162** (**permalink**) 02-26-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AmusedToDeath

Certainly!

http://www.aeronautics.ru/rinasattack01.htm
...The two G-4 Super Galebs were never detected by airport's limited air defenses and dropped their load of cluster bombs, presumably, on the Apache helicopter base lass then 20 minutes after taking off from Golubovci.

According to several private sources, at least nine Apaches were heavily damaged or destroyed.
...

cool thanks. Sounds plausable, in a Tom Clancyish novel kinda way. Let us know if you get any corroborating intel from reliable sources.

raytri · #**163** (**permalink**) 02-26-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AmusedToDeath

Yes, but in this specific situation you cannot find mainstream media. NATO forces' websites (which you consider mainstream and accurate) are too shy to tell everyone that an old fashioned G4 Super Galeb (not even supersonic) destroyed 12 brand new pieces of military equipment - so praised around the world... It would be a hard blow, don't you think? Not to mention Zoltan Dani

Grond knows who I'm talking about

It's a nice claim, but there is *zero* evidence backing it up. I don't know how it works in Serbia or Russia, but in the United States it would be nearly impossible to cover up an event like that. Everyone in the Apache unit would know about it, and word would eventually get out.

And that's assuming there were no casualties. If anyone was killed in the attack, that would come out almost immediately.

So what you have is a claim of having damaged or destroyed nine Apaches without killing anyone -- a claim with no independent confirmation.

Sorry, nobody objective is going to believe you.

AmusedToDeath · #**164** (**permalink**) 02-26-2008, 04:17 PM

The Apaches were grounded on the airfield in Albania. There were no crew members in them, that's why nobody got killed.

AmusedToDeath · #**165** (**permalink**) 02-26-2008, 04:22 PM

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The Serb SAMs remained a potent threat throughout the conflict, forcing attacking warplanes to altitudes above 15,000 feet, where they were safe from surface-to-air missiles but far less effective in a ground attack role.

NATO won the war in June 1999, after President Slobodan Milosevic decided to withdraw his largely intact army from Kosovo, following the destruction of numerous government buildings, bridges and other infrastructure targets throughout Serbia.

"The Americans entered the war a bit overconfident," Dani said. "They thought they could crush us without real resistance."

"At times, they acted like amateurs," Dani said, listing some ways the Serbs managed to breach NATO communications security, including eavesdropping on pilots' conversations with AWACS surveillance planes.

"I personally listened to their pilots' conversations, learning about their routes and bombing plans," Dani said.

Dani said that his unit has had annual reunions on every March 27 since 1999 when a cake in the shape of the F-117 is served.

The link: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...-stealth_x.htm

AmusedToDeath · #**166** (**permalink**) 02-26-2008, 04:31 PM

By the way, this thread is the hottest one and has most views in this forum.

VOCi · #**167** (**permalink**) 02-26-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sadistic-Savior

Because Americans have access to many different types of media. We have no media that is outlawed, and we receive news from many different sources (not the least of which is the internet).

There are many many Americans that share your views. If they could catch CNN/FOX/whoever in a lie and prove it, they would do so in a heartbeat. CNN/FOX/MSNBC know this, which is why they will never actually lie about a fact deliberately, although they will spin it in favor of their position.

Believe what you want. I'm explaining why no one will buy your biased sources. If you want to convince anyone who doesn't already agree with you, you will need to use mainstream media sources.

Brother just watch the Slobodan Trial...... The UN didn't buy his mouth.... he was running it just like these two clowns...... Slobodan made an anu$ out of his last day..... Funny as hell

TrueAlbo2006 · #**168** (**permalink**) 02-26-2008, 09:00 PM

Tadic wearing the Albanian Plis

DuH2 · #**169** (**permalink**) 02-26-2008, 09:25 PM

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But the Apache was sidelined in Kosovo. In 1999, the Pentagon ordered 24 Apache Alphas grounded in Albania after a training accident. The action infuriated Gen. Wesley K. Clark, the NATO commander, who was trying to intensify the air war over Kosovo. But the Clinton administration worried that the Apaches would be too vulnerable to Serbian fire

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/ne...5-apache01.htm

There was mechanical problems in the first series of Apache helicoptors.

There was no ground attack by Serbian Aircraft made on them.

2 Apaches crashed in Albania-

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November 12, 1999
Two Apaches crashed in April and May in Albania while training for possible use in Yugoslavia. In the May accident, two soldiers were killed when their helicopter went into a roll and hit the ground.

An Army spokesman said neither safety problem is believed to have been a factor in those crashes, but Army officials have yet to make public the findings of those investigations.

Sources tell CNN that the April accident in Albania was ruled a result of pilot error, and that the May crash was caused by a mechanical malfunction which sent a errant command to the helicopter's controls.

http://www.cnn.com/US/9911/12/apache...ain/index.html

Why is it I'm the only one here who seems to remember anything older then 3 days?

AmusedToDeath · #**170** (**permalink**) 02-27-2008, 02:40 AM

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There was mechanical problems in the first series of Apache helicoptors.

There was no ground attack by Serbian Aircraft made on them.

Sure there was. If you hadn't found out so far that politicians lie, then you should start doing that. Reports of military wins or losses have their political significance. Did Americans ever admit what really happened in Vietnam? Did they admit the true number of casualties? They did not. And yes, American army is not invincible. And yes, American army is vulnerable just like every other army in history.

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