Russia threatens force over Kosovo illegal independence ! - Page 10

AmusedToDeath · #91 (**permalink**) 02-26-2008, 01:24 PM

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If enough people like him had been lobbying, offering real deals to NATO/west, and communicating with the American people three months ago this situation might even be different

Thank you for appreciating my efforts

..which, however, are not just plain lobbying... My mission is to present the other side of the story. Subjective truth cannot be called truth. I understand that history is written by winners, but today's advanced systems of communication allow us to view things from many different angles. Serbia has her own angle (which is not necessarily always the right one)... However, in this case, with the pile of lies presented to western peoples and governments, Serbia and her people have a strong moral ground to fight those lies and bring things closer to the truth.

Sadistic-Savior · #92 (**permalink**) 02-26-2008, 01:36 PM

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Thank you for appreciating my efforts ..which, however, are not just plain lobbying... My mission is to present the other side of the story. Subjective truth cannot be called truth.

Then there is no such thing as truth, since all truth is subjective.

VOCi · #93 (**permalink**) 02-26-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AmusedToDeath

The only wartime success they achieved was against civilians on both sides (even Albanian)

Your EDIT is just to obvious....... It's just an insult to anyone's intelligence to actually read the lies that you type..... I'm done with responding to anyone of your kind....

AmusedToDeath · #94 (**permalink**) 02-26-2008, 02:06 PM

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Your bull is just to obvious....... It's just an insult to anyone's intelligence to actually read the lies that you type..... I'm done with responding to anyone of your kind....

People use to say that truth can be very painful. I understand your pain. You are not obliged to communicate with me.

TrueAlbo2006 · #95 (**permalink**) 02-26-2008, 02:21 PM

Serbs celebrated BIN LADEN's attack on NEW YORK 9/11

YouTube - Some Serbs celebrated BIN LADEN's...

AmusedToDeath · #96 (**permalink**) 02-26-2008, 02:43 PM

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Serbs celebrated BIN LADEN's attack on NEW YORK 9/11

I didn't see a single Serb on that video. Are you trying to conceal Albanian connections with Osama Bin Laden by presenting this video with several messages in Serbian language that say: "when USA attacks a sovereign nation without the approval of the UN - that is legitimate, and when somebody attacks USA without UN approval - US calls it terror"?

Come on, you've gotta be joking.

And now the real facts:

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U.S. intelligence officials are investigating ties between the terrorists who carried out suicide airliner attacks and associates of Osama bin Laden based in Albania. The connections were described as support for the terrorist operation to hijack U.S. commercial jetliners and crash them into the Pentagon and the World Trade Center, according to U.S. intelligence officials.
No further details of the support could be learned.
One official said intelligence reports about the Albanian connection to the attacks is one of several leads being pursued overseas by the CIA and other U.S. intelligence agencies.
Bin Laden and his organization, al Qaeda, are believed to have small groups of terrorists or supporters in 50 to 60 nations, including Albania, according to U.S. officials.
Asked if getting bin Laden is the U.S. goal, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell told reporters yesterday that "we are after the al Qaeda network."
"It's not one individual," Mr. Powell said. "It's lots of individuals, and it's lots of cells. ... Osama bin Laden is the chairman of a holding company. And within that holding company are terrorist cells and organizations in dozens of countries around the world."
The administration's war on terrorism will "start with that one individual" — bin Laden.
"It will not be over until we have gotten into the inside of this organization, inside its decision cycle, inside its planning cycle, inside its execution capability, and until we have neutralized and destroyed it," Mr. Powell said. "That's our objective."
Albania is one of several places U.S. intelligence agencies are focusing their resources — from human agents to electronic eavesdropping.
Since the mid-1990s, bin Laden associates have been based in Tirana, Albania's capital, as well as in at least two other towns in the small, formerly communist nation, U.S. officials said.
Islamic radicals, including supporters of bin Laden, have been supporting Albanian rebels fighting in the region, including members of the Kosovo Liberation Army. Intelligence officials have said there are reports that KLA members have been trained at bin Laden training camps in Afghanistan.
Bin Laden and his Islamic extremist group, al Qaeda, are the main suspects in last week's terrorist attacks.
As of last year, the group operated a residence in Tirana, and the CIA has been pressing Albania's government to expel all associates of the Islamic terrorists.
According to U.S. officials, bin Laden gained a foothold in Albania in 1994 by portraying himself to the government there as a wealthy Saudi national who was in charge of a humanitarian agency that could help Albania.
Albanian intelligence believes terrorists have benefited from the theft of some 1,000 blank Albanian passports that were stolen during riots in 1997, according to a 1998 report in the London Sunday Telegraph.
Since the attack, the FBI has detained 49 persons, many of whom appear to be of Middle Eastern descent. Four of the detainees were are identified as "material witnesses" to the Sept. 11 attacks. None has been identified by nationality and the passports they used to enter the United States also have not been identified.
In 1998, U.S. and Albanian authorities broke up an Islamic terrorist cell in Albania and arrested two members of the bin Laden group.
The CIA was able to obtain a large quantity of documents and computer equipment that led to further arrests. Two members of the group, Egyptian nationals, were turned over to anti-terrorist police in Egypt that year.
"Bin Laden's group has a network in Albania," said former CIA counterterrorism official Vince Cannistraro.
"This looks like the support operation [for the U.S. attacks] was worldwide," he said of reports of the Albanian connection.
Albanian Police Chief Bilbil Mema told Agence France-Presse on Thursday that Albania had ceased to be a safe haven for terrorism. "In Albania there is no longer an Islamic threat," Mr. Mema was quoted as saying. "This country is no longer a refuge for Islamic terrorists."
Albanian security and intelligence authorities, in cooperation with the CIA, had "successfully led operations aimed at destroying the network that Islamic terrorists have attempted to establish in this country," Mr. Mema said.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/561291/posts

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/deliso5.html

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7006/KLA-drugs.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BIS111A.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/us_suppo...lkan_wars.html

http://www.tenc.net/analysis/kla-aq.htm

http://www.new-federalist.com/other/...qaeda_kla.html

http://www.findinternettv.com/Video,...399059830.aspx

... and many many more.... all over internet...

Grond · #97 (**permalink**) 02-26-2008, 03:21 PM

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I didn't see a single Serb on that video.

...certain Noah Chomsky's book about methods of such cheap propaganda like that video!

AmusedToDeath · #98 (**permalink**) 02-26-2008, 03:28 PM

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cheap propaganda

Of course. They cannot provide facts and then they play dirty. Typical Albanian, nothing new.

TrueAlbo2006 · #99 (**permalink**) 02-26-2008, 05:11 PM

Serbia is Siberia, Move back to your mother Russia.

Dont belong in the Continent of Europe!

AsIAm · #**100** (**permalink**) 02-26-2008, 10:35 PM

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Serbia is Siberia, Move back to your mother Russia.

Dont belong in the Continent of Europe!

Now that is very mature right there. Anyways i ask my self how easy is it for someone to make that video, all you need is a serbian song a translator to translate a couple of words (if it was in cyrilic like real "chetniks" write, i'd give it a second thought) and a video about 9/11.

Now i remember watching TV with my dad when the this horrible ordeal hapened. It is an insult to me as a member of Serbian nation ( even though im sure most of you dont give a crap) to be accused of celebrating the death of innocent. No matter how much i disliked and disagreed with US administration or foreign policy, i would not be any diferent from those who comited that crime if i said that i was glad. So my albanian friend, take your comments and accusations of such nature to, lets say, youtube where your kind and a whole other bunch of nationalists excange bullcrap like this.

Just as i emphasized in couple of other topics regarding Kosovo, there is or at least there should not be any hate from anyone toward anyone. I mean we can always go to war and kill eachother until extinction but that is not the point or the goal we should be trying to reach. It is interesting how most arguments on this topic are related to serbian "hate" and albanian "love" toward USA. That is just the everyday crap to feed the average John Doe. I have been in US for 6 months now and i have great respect for the people here, hard working and generous folks especially here in the south. So no one can tell me that i should hate them just because their government is doing something to harm my country. Therefor please lets have a decent and civilised conversation and discusion instead of bash and flame war.

Terrorism is a very present and everyday thing in US. All of you will hear about it at least once a day. I just wonder why are those Mujahedens in Albania or Checnia ( who live, fight and strive to for the same goal as AlQuaeda and that is anihilation of christian community) different from those you are fighting across the Middle East? Lets put all the disputes should Kosovo be independant or not aside and focus on the nature of Islamic community in the region. If you do a research you will see that most of the KLA forces (which were by the way on the CIA-s list of terrorist organisations) is directly or indirectly connected with AlQuaeda, then why double standards? Dont you think that it will be easier for them to organise a attack from the middle of the Europe instead of Middle East? I mean, i really do not understand what is the final goal here? Extreme Muslims think the same and share the same goal despite their color, ethnicity or descent unlike us Christians. Think about your future and just remember that 5 out 6 memebers of the cell that planned the attack on Ft.Dicks were Albanians from Kosovo, trained in KLA camps. And just a small disclamer, i have nothing against Muslim population just that little part which is causing all the trouble around the world.

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