Good post. I have been trying to set aside these arguments between one side or the other and for/against the independence. The fundamental oppostition here is the KLA, what to do about them, and why the US has not done anything about them - the CIA knows all about them.

There are many reasons for this, here are a few -

The US does not want to start conflict with the new regime because they have agreed to comply with some basic tenants set by the UN and US.

The US thinks the KLA will be superior to any Kosovar troops they train in the event we withdraw from Kosovo.

The US perceives the KLA will do little harm to the troops/policies in Kosovo, because of the newfound independence (this is the most believable).

The US has some economic ties to the KLA or with those who supply the army.

The US believes keeping the organization in tact will help with relations in Albania.

The US knows the KLA is the quickest way to provoking Serbia, and leaves them in power because of this.

The US thinks the terrorist organization has pacified with the independence.

The KLA is working for the US as 'peacekeepers'.

The US wants to know exact positions and investigate the organization so they will know everything about them.

The US is in denial of the extremist nature of the guerilla army.

The US will use the army at a certain point in the future after withdrawing from Kosovo (also very believable).

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I gues we can only speculate what is the connection of US administartion and KLA but that would bring us back to flames and uneficient convincing. There definitly is some sort of political/economical interest in that specific are for US. We are just that poor bastard whos turn came to be sacrificed for the goals of the USA. It is an unjust world but crying and complaining about it will not work, some sort of action needs to be taken. Your only concearn should be, what is going to face your children when Mujahedeens strike from all the places where US democracy installed them. My nation and my people will probably be gone by then ( i guess we are just destined to go to the ultimate battle and all die, or this world will just "push us in to the water" as someone said earlier.

Don't start to use the Hebrew Hammer's ultimate weapon on me Once little is left in a person's life, they begin to see options they had before thought impossible paths. I think someone in due time will pick up where Djindjic left off. Amused enlightened me on his plight in Serbia (and for the Albanians - yes I cross checked the info).

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Djindjic was unique, in many aspects. I don't believe that in due time a politician of his caliber will take the steering wheel of Serbia. But what we should do - is follow his path and his vision. Eventually, things will calm down and take the right course. However, injustice has got to be repaired and respect of the law must prevail. If humans have no recourse to the rules of society, then we shall slide into anarchy and won't differ much from animals (even animals have their rules in a certain way).

What I want to say is this: if the norm says that one country cannot attack another sovereign country without the approval of the UN, then it cannot. No exceptions! No "democracy" excuses!

I have not the slightest doubt that you Americans would seek to 'defend' Kosovo were the Russians to take part in military actions against the Muslims there as a means by which they may ensure Serbia's rightful claims to Kosovo. It is one thing for the USA to have fought the weakling nations of this world, and lost. It would be quite different were the Russians to actually become involved. They are the Iraqis.

Russians are very rude...the tyrant is very angry..

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Just what I thought. But you see that would mean, Kosovo's population would live in fear. The Serbs have clearly demonstrated that they are only interested in a Kosovo without the Albanians. And I am not only referring to the war in '98-'99. Remember Rankovic Which you made clear that what he did to the Albanians, was good. He wasn't any different from Mr Slobodan Milosevic.

Does ""The Expulsion of the Albanians: Memorandum 1937" ring a bell?!

If not, take a look, it might refresh your memory;
http://www.aacl.com/expulsion23.html

So you see the war during '98-'99 is just the tip of the iceberg. Everytime the Serbian Government have had a chance to ethnic cleans the Kosovar Albanians out of their home land, they've done it!!

Sure that might be the case, but the question here is; What kind of influence do they have? Do they get their voice heard?

Oh really, Then how come there were no Albanian news on Albanian TV in Kosovo during that time? That doesn't make sense, sorry. What you seem to forget here is, during Milosevic's time, he controlled the Media in Kosovo AND Serbia. What you got to see was anti-Albanian propaganda. And I must say he did a good if not a great job at brain-washing its people.

Just look at today, Milosevic is dead but his spirit is still alive in his people. Sadly

I doubt the Serbian government would agree to a bilingual Serbia. As far as Vojvodina goes, of course they should be allowed to be taught their mother tongue at school. They are the minority on their own land. Just like Kosovo, Vojvodina "Madjarska" ( south part of Hungary) has been and still is occupied by Serbia.

I guess we will never know since the Russians don't have the balls to confront us. Or maybe its because the Russians really don't care about Serbia at all. I suppose it could be both.


Freudian slip? heh heh



Who was using Soviet technology. And we did it without having to conscript a single soldier. Can the Russians say the same?


I agree. The Russians have a lot more to lose, and so are less likely to confront us.


Apparently the Russians themselves arent quite as confident as you are, heh heh


Maybe he's just a lot smarter than you are.

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The Iraqis were using old weapons, and those were the 'export' model from the former Soviet Union. The Soviets never sold their front-line stuff to their allies. They were simply too paranoid, and rightfully so. The equipment used by every Soviet ally was not the same as that used by the Red Army, or the VPO Strany. The T-72s, which were the most-advanced tanks the Iraqis had, were not the same as those used by the Soviets, and they were severely outdated. Setting an M1A1 Abrams against an T-72 is ridiculous. That is akin to sending a WWI-era tank up against an WWII Tiger tank.

When your M1A1 Abrams:



has gone up against this:



Then we can talk. The idiotic NATO countries, yapping and bragging about having taken on 30 year old tanks with their own best tanks, have known about the below for a long, long time, but kept the information quiet from the civilians of the West: