Serbs attack U.N. convoy in Kosovo flare-up - Page 6

peterm2652 · #51 (**permalink**) 03-17-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sadistic-Savior

We would only attack Serbia (IMO) if it was policy related. That is, if we could determine that the Serbian government ordered the attacks directly or indirectly.

As obnoxious as Serbia has been, we are not going to bomb them over the actions of isolated terrorists which the Serbian government has no control over. We would not hold the Kosovo government responsible either if situations were reversed.

If it can be proven that the Serbian government is behind the attacks (directly or indirectly) then that is a whole different story. Then yes, a bombing might be needed.

You can have that without bombing Serbia needlessly. Serbia is not responsible for things it has no control over.

Finally the voice of wisdom

AmusedToDeath · #52 (**permalink**) 03-17-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Grond

...of Siberia is a bithplace of those people who used to beat NAZI stormtroppers and their loyal albanian kholops during WWII

Oh,man,I laughed my arse off when I read this one... Way to go, Grondy! You're da man!

TrueAlbo2006 · #53 (**permalink**) 03-17-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sadistic-Savior

Do you have any actual evidence of this or is it an assumption you are making?

read the news.

commonsense · #54 (**permalink**) 03-17-2008, 07:57 PM

A few notes on this thread, for those Albanians who are pro-Kosovo: the Kosovar parliament has already stated the minorities within Kosovo will be given the same rights as other citizens. Meaning, Serbs in Kosovo are not 'Serbian' anymore, according to the government of Kosovo they are 'Kosovoan' minorities. They should be dealt with under the law of the land which adheres to any citizen; they should be given prison time and little else, unless they killed someone, then they would be put on trial for manslaughter, etc.

But we don't see the Kosovar government interfering, do we? Who intervenes? The UN coalition troops...the US base...Kosovo doesn't even have a jail? Come on, what kind of government is this?

Why do the riots of minorities within Kosovo warrant a bombing campaign against their home nation? Did America bomb Poland for the actions of Leon Czolgosz?

TrueAlbo2006 · #55 (**permalink**) 03-17-2008, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by commonsense

But we don't see the Kosovar government interfering, do we? Who intervenes? The UN coalition troops...the US base...Kosovo doesn't even have a jail? Come on, what kind of government is this?

The terrorist state of Serbia has been terrorising the Kosovar minorities. Serbs.
Serbs are being used by Belgrade like serbs were being used in Krajina, Croatia.
Belgrade has been blackmailing the serbian minorities, ORDERING THEM to not participate in any Kosovar institutions, threatening their lives. Most of these serb minorities have relatives in Serbia. Serbian nationalism is relentless.

I have invited a Kosovar Serb to participate in this forum. He shall be here tomorrow and you will have a chance to hear what he is talking about it. Perhaps, your buddy amusedtodeath will have a better understanding and the rest of you.

A Kosovar serb who was given a tractor, a new job, his brother who lives in serbia was beaten up to death by the serbian hooligans, of course, serbian government ordered that. Who else would know this serb has relatives in Serbia?

commonsense · #56 (**permalink**) 03-17-2008, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueAlbo2006

The terrorist state of Serbia has been terrorising the Kosovar minorities. Serbs.
Serbs are being used by Belgrade like serbs were being used in Krajina, Croatia.
Belgrade has blackmailing the serbian minorities, ORDERING THEM to not participate in any Kosovar institutions, threatening their lives. Most of these serb minorities have relatives in Serbia. Serbian nationalism is relentless.

I have invited a Kosovar Serb to participate in this forum. He shall be here tomorrow and you will have a chance to hear what he is talking about it. Perhaps, your buddy amusedtodeath will have a better understanding and the rest of you.

You didn't answer why the Kosovo government has done nothing about it. Let me answer for you, they are dreadfully incompetent and have no real authority, they are a protectorate of the UN and western powers. Why did this independence need to come about? It wasn't as if the situation was any different for seven years before without discretion, we've taken a resolved problem and escalated it into a worldwide issue.

TrueAlbo2006 · #57 (**permalink**) 03-17-2008, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by commonsense

You didn't answer why the Kosovo government has not done something about it. Let me answer for you, they are dreadfully incompetent and have no real authority, they are a protectorate of the UN and western powers. Why did this independence need to come about? It wasn't as if the situation was any different for seven years before without discretion, we've taken a resolved problem and escalated it into a worldwide issue.

We have done alot about it. As for authority, we have that. Don't worry. We just got our independence. It takes a while to establish things.

Army is on its way. We're a different kind of people. Serbs want to provoke and start another interior war. Serbs will lose. Whatever they're doing right now, they're just harming themselves. Order and authority is very strong and Prishtina controls pretty much every corner of Republic of KOsova.
NATO is here for next decade. And KosovA Army will be built in the next 15 months.
We have a powerful diaspora in the world and very powerful lobbies. Billions of dollars we're pouring over there as we speak.
Everything is under control.
The former president of Yugoslavia , Stjepan Mesic, just recently said: Kosova had the right for Independence. Yugoslavia was my country. He is a constitutional lawyer.

commonsense · #58 (**permalink**) 03-17-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueAlbo2006

We have done alot about it. As for authority, we have that. Don't worry. We just got our independence. It takes a while to establish things.

Army is on its way. We're a different kind of people. Serbs want to provoke and start another interior war. Serbs will lose. Whatever they're doing right now, they're just harming themselves. Order and authority is very strong and Prishtina controls pretty much every corner of Republic of KOsova.
NATO is here for next decade. And KosovA Army will be built in the next 15 months.
We have a powerful diaspora in the world and very powerful lobbies. Billions of dollars we're pouring over there as we speak.
Everything is under control.
The former president of Yugoslavia , Stjepan Mesic, just recently said: Kosova had the right for Independence. Yugoslavia was my country. He is a constitutional lawyer.

The Serbs in Kosovo should be tried by some form of provisional court, we know they have a legislative body working on a constitution, but they have not yet shown affinity for domestic affairs; these powers were specifically given to the new government by the UN through independence. For example, they cannot declare war without consent of certain nations right now, but they have all the power to try and convict citizens under a provisional parliament/court system. It is just one more action (or lack thereof) which leads me to assume the Kosovo government is not upholding the best interests of its own people. They do well in appeasement of countries through foreign affairs, but what have they done for themselves beyond a victory celebration for independence?

TrueAlbo2006 · #59 (**permalink**) 03-17-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by commonsense

The Serbs in Kosovo should be tried by some form of provisional court, we know they have a legislative body working on a constitution, but they have not yet shown affinity for domestic affairs; these powers were specifically given to the new government by the UN through independence. For example, they cannot declare war without consent of certain nations right now, but they have all the power to try and convict citizens under a provisional parliament/court system. It is just one more action (or lack thereof) which leads me to assume the Kosovo government is not upholding the best interests of its own people. They do well in appeasement of countries through foreign affairs, but what have they done for themselves beyond an victory celebration for independence?

Have you read the Japanese Constitution?

We want to build our economy. We want to become a powerful economical country in the Balkans. If serbs want to reject our government, here is what will happen. Poverty and misery will be among them. They're not stupid. They will join us. There are French districts in Switzerland. French Parties of Switzerland and a lot of France's political parties have tried to convince french people of Switzerland to join France. 3 times they have failed. Why? Switzerland GPA is 3 times higher. Besides serbs make only 2.3% of Kosovar population.

zmajce77 · #60 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 03:08 AM

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Besides serbs make only 2.3% of Kosovar population.

Yeah, tanks Nato & KLA

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