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Old 03-21-2008, 11:38 AM
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Interesting.To achive so caled democracy us bombes sovernt countries.Maybe you ment that ''democracy'' menas oil or heroin?You do know that us ataked Iraq for oil.And that afganistan produses 100 bilion dolars of heroin.Main shipment of heroin is going thru kosovo.All ilegal tobacco,guns, explosives and drogs is pasing thru kosvo to EU.500000 people died in Iraq sinse 2003.And the nex democracy neded countrie is Iran then Venecuela...Question is what will US do when there is no more Oil in the world?


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Yes but seems to me that, wherever US put fingers there is so much death
(Iraq, Vietnam,Afghanistan,etc).So thats blood is on US hands or not?
But i didnt see that people in invited country say >US is help< or maybe im wrong again?Just look , every day in Iraq we have more then 20 death ppl, or maybe not?
Well, actually, right now the Kosovars are probably the best example of a people who are very happy with the US for helping them. Supposedly our troops love being there for that reason. A lot of the Afgans seemed pretty happy about us removing the Taliban as well. And some Iraqi's are happy. Certainly the Kurds, and most of the Shi'ites. Sunnis not some much.

I think it helps when you can either drive the oppresors out or slice a country to seperate them. Integrating the oppresor who fears now being oppressed can be difficult.

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Interesting.To achive so caled democracy us bombes sovernt countries.
Sovereignty is conditional. If you oppress an ethnic minority, you are no longer sovereign.


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You do know that us ataked Iraq for oil.
The US attacked Iraq because Saddam refused to comply with our ultimatum.

Non-democracies have no rights. Iraq was not a democracy at that time.



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And the nex democracy neded countrie is Iran then Venecuela...
Venezuela is already a democracy. So there is no need for action on our part.



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Question is what will US do when there is no more Oil in the world?
Solar. Nuclear. Gas Hydrates. Wind. Tidal. Water. Geothermal. And then there is of course Shale oil...The US has more Shale Oil in Colorado than Saudi Arabia has in its entire nation.

Oil is not the be all/end all of energy.



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You probably speak my language a lot better than I speak yours.

And you still speak English better than most Americans on here.



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Yes but seems to me that, wherever US put fingers there is so much death (Iraq, Vietnam,Afghanistan,etc).
Oh yeah, because there was no death in "Iraq, Vietnam,Afghanistan,etc" before we got there, right?



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So thats blood is on US hands or not?
So long as we really believe the alternatives are worse, it is irrelevant how much blood we have on our hands.



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But i didnt see that people in invited country say >US is help< or maybe im wrong again?
Perhaps they were not in a position to ask.

If so, then the first priority should be establishing conditions under which they can make their desires known. Right?

I am unwilling to assume by default that they want to be oppressed.



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Just look , every day in Iraq we have more then 20 death ppl, or maybe not?
So why are they not electing politicians that want to kick us out?
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And you still speak English better than most Americans on here.
Super no comments.This is great country with small IQ.Lol.
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Perhaps they were not in a position to ask.
Because democracy you delivered them, now they have right of free speech, but every time i watch TV Iraqi ppl say they want US OUT.Is it not enough.
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Certainly the Kurds, and most of the Shi'ites.
Yes,lol, now let them to have they own country, if i recall correctly Kurds is the biggest nations in whole world without country so go for it.
Let say, is it morning in US now?
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A lot of the Afgans seemed pretty happy about us removing the Taliban as well.
Yes they are, now they produce kokain & sell to US, probably for more money than they got from talibans .I would be happy too if i on they positions.
As i know they r one of the biggest producer of kokain in world now days or maybe im wrong?
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They make opium not cocaine. But yes it accounts for something like half their GDP.

It's a messed up little country.
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Sovereignty is conditional. If you oppress an ethnic minority, you are no longer sovereign.
...this just your private opinion. The US govt has no right to determine who is sovereign and who is not.

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The US attacked Iraq because Saddam refused to comply with our ultimatum.
The US attacked Iraq under false pretexts to seize iraqi oil and gas.

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Non-democracies have all rights to exist.
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...this just your private opinion. The US govt has no right to determine who is sovereign and who is not.
well what russians say does not matter...you are nobody..have you realized it yet or we're going to keep humiliating you which I am truly enjoying it?....

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well what russians say does not matter...you are nobody..
We are those who owned proud albanians together with their beloved Lord, Adolf Hitler
After that Serbs owned you once again...and finally you laid in one bed with Uncle Sam.
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We are those who owned proud albanians together with their beloved Lord, Adolf Hitler
After that Serbs owned you once again...and finally you laid in one bed with Uncle Sam.
You are talking about a different country, Albania...


....But Republic of Kosova was always a hardcore beat of Democracy..You are quite misinformed of what happened in 1944 and 1945..Americans and Brits were in Republic of Kosova. We were very close to establish a democratic republic but Albania fell under communism and Republic Kosova as a landlocked country was besieged by the communist filth..Just to let you know that my grandfather fought communist partisans until 1953...Tito kept it tight to make sure no one hears about it by applying a martial law onto the entire territory of Kosova until 1966. Let's see, between 1946 to 1953 war 230,000 Albanians were massacred. half million ethnically cleansed and Yugoslavia and serbia could not exterminate us. Period...Kosovars' determination for freedom, democracy and prosperity was never over.

Moreover, Tito made the biggest mistake by forcedly incorporating Kosova into Yugoslavia. He even gave us full equal rights in the Federation with a right to veto any bill in Yugoslavia. Still, communism was not Kosovar's appeal. Kosovars were the Yugoslavia's ghost. Anti-communism ran high among Kosovars and it was strongly nurtured to the next generation which went on the street to demonstrate in 1966, 1968, 1981, 1985 which lead the end of Yugoslavia and communism in the Balkans. All Kosovars burned the communist membership cards in 1981. Which other communist country had the guts to do it , at that volatile cold war time? Kosovars destroyed communism in the Balkans. You never wondered who was our role model. The United States of America.
Our alliance with the States dates back in 1918 with President Wilson..

The golden rule of democracy is this and Kosovars have learned it: Patience, dedication, determination, loyalty, passion, freedom, equal rights, prosperity and honesty.

This was not a decade work but a half century work.
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