John McCain: Russia must be expelled from G8 - Page 4

beachbum · #31 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by catzmeow

Russia doesn't belong in the G8, and should be replaced by one of the up-and-coming southeast Asian industrial powers, like India.

i agree. i think india or maybe brazil should be in the G8 instead.

catzmeow · #32 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 12:25 PM

We have to realize the old Cold War balance of power has shifted in the past 20 years. India, Brazil, and China are all economic superpowers these days, while Europe and Eastern Europe are fading into economic obscurity.

Matticus77 · #33 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Truth-Bringer

If the Russian people support Putin, and their standard of living is increasing, then it shouldn't be the concern of anyone else.

I don't understand why multiple people feel this way. If economy and popularity is what makes a respectable leader then no one should have worried about Hitler because he turned around Germany's economy and the people loved him.

stekim · #34 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 12:44 PM

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i agree. i think india or maybe brazil should be in the G8 instead.

If it makes you feel better, there is something called the G8 plus 5 that meets. That includes the G8, plus Brazil, China, India, Mexico and South Africa. Those 13 countries make up around 80% of the world's economic output.

Grond · #35 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lunecat

You may care when Britain, Canada and other members of the (current) G8 vote with the US led by JohnnyMc to remove those Russia rasclas from the club.

...for nice political anecdote!

Grond · #36 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sadistic-Savior

The G8 is more about capitalism than politics. And Russia's economy sucks (and will continue to suck so long as Putin has the nation under his thumb). It makes sense to replace them with stronger economies.

An opinion of a proud American whose dollar becomes a piece of toilet paper!

catzmeow · #37 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 05:06 PM

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Russians economy is growing each day

I love fairy tales. Tell me another one.

AmusedToDeath · #38 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 05:13 PM

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Russians economy is growing each day
I love fairy tales. Tell me another one.

As for fairy tales, here are some for you:

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In early 2007, investment growth boomed in Russia, driving one of the largest economies on record-breaking economic growth. High margins and rising ruble contributed to the growth of fixed capital investment which rised 19,9 percent, slashing the 17,4 percent record set back in 2000. WB's much favorable forecast predicted continually strong economic growth. It seems that investors relied on the estimates as internal and external investments focused on domestic consumption and mostly resource sector. This year's growth forecast is estimated to exceed previous 8 percent rate while the officials forecast 7 percent growth rate. Six year's annual economic growth has averaged 6.2 percent....

INVESTMENT "HONEY MOONS" BOOST RUSSIAN ECONOMIC BOOM

Russia's economy has never looked healthier

Russia has serious economic growth potential

While Russia can claim that wages have risen, its economy is expanding and poverty rates have been cut

...and many many more...

Grond · #39 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AmusedToDeath

He will make the world hate America even more.

..of the United States of America. They deserve it.

f100supersabr · #40 (**permalink**) 03-27-2008, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AmusedToDeath

Whatever Putin does, he does not oppress his people. Russian people are richer and happier now, unlike the Yeltsin (Uncle Sam's puppet) period. With Yeltsin (who danced the way Uncle Sam played), Russia was democratic, lovely, superb when watching your media, even though she slided into bankruptcy and her people died of hunger in the streets...

Putin is an autocrat, no doubt about that. But he is loved and respected in his country. He brought back pride to the hearts of Russian people. You don't like him because he has no problem with sending Uncle Sam to go .... himself.

If large majority of Russian people are satisfied, why should you care? Stick to your own problems. If you want to tell me that the electoral process (which satisfies the basic rules in Russia) is more important than human lives, happiness and prosperity, then you are completely out of your minds.

The Ivankiys loved Stalin also so what does that prove!!! Russians love terror and love to be opprssed and be kicked like dogs by their rulers!!

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