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Old 03-26-2008, 04:20 PM
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Russia must be expelled from G8:John McCain

The U.S. presidential frontrunner from the Republican Party John McCain has called to exclude Russia from the "Group of Eight" countries.

He made the statement while delivering his speech on foreign policy in Los Angeles.

According to McCain, the world community should be sure that the G8 forum "becomes again a club of leading market democracies".

As a possible move he suggested to withdraw Russia which he described as a country which seeks revenge and replace it with Brazil and India.
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So, mr John Da NakedGun McClown is about to expel Russia from G8 and introduce "leading market democracies" like Brazil and India because "Russia seeks revenge"???????

This guy is trouble.

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Wow; what an idiot.
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If Russia continues its route to a dictatorship then there no reason to have it in the G7..makes sense to include India and Brazil though.
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Except for that whole death squad problem...

They should knock that off...

India: yes.


But Kicking out Russia would only isolate them and expedite their digression.
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If Russia continues its route to a dictatorship then there no reason to have it in the G7..makes sense to include India and Brazil though.
Russian presidents are ELECTED. I don't see dictatorship in Russian people's desire to have this or that guy as the first man. Go make a poll in Russia and you will see that Medvedev and Putin have much bigger support than Bush does in his own country. But Uncle Sam is a bit afraid of the the Big Bear's revival, so he's becoming desperate. Fortunately for world politics and balance, Russia will continue to grow, and Uncle Sam can't do a darn thing to stop that process.
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Old 03-26-2008, 04:55 PM
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But Uncle Sam is a bit afraid of the the Big Bear's revival, so he's becoming desperate. .
Untrue.

The bear is playing ball, now, and I highly doubt this will ever come to anything more than comments.

And that's because the politicians who have always thrived on fear feel the need to poke the bear again.
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Russia's current sock puppet(Medenev) was elected in a process that was so corrupt it made the Soviet era elections look fair.
Putin is leader and Putin is the only one that matters.

You can't even seperate them yourself.

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Still they're mostly playing ball. I could see a little finger waggling but I don't think we should be trying to alienate them yet.
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Russian presidents are ELECTED.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO Really. Stop Joking. People are trying to have a serious conversation here.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=767_1196421426

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/29/russia2

http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/cont.../04/9388.shtml

http://www.theotherrussia.org/2008/0...aud-observers/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian...election,_2007
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Russian presidents are ELECTED. I don't see dictatorship in Russian people's desire to have this or that guy as the first man. Go make a poll in Russia and you will see that Medvedev and Putin have much bigger support than Bush does in his own country. But Uncle Sam is a bit afraid of the the Big Bear's revival, so he's becoming desperate. Fortunately for world politics and balance, Russia will continue to grow, and Uncle Sam can't do a darn thing to stop that process.
An ''election'' when the current President choses his successor and then forbids media access to the other candidates is in my mind a road to dictatorship. Especially when that former President stays in power behind the scenes to play the puppetmaster after his guy gets ''elected''.

Putin is a dictator, no matter how popular he can be. Tito was popular too and when he died all Yugoslavia mourned him. That doesn't mean he was a great democrat, far from it.

G7 was designed so all the leading democracies with the strongest economies can get together to get things done. When you have one of its members working against the others, it becomes unproductive. G7 is not a place to settle old rivalries like Russia is doing. So Russia should leave to make room for more cooperative members.
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