Political Forum
     

Go Back   Political Forum > Politics by Region > Russia & Eastern Europe


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #51 (permalink)  
Old 04-03-2008, 11:44 AM
marko.t's Avatar
marko.t marko.t is offline
Sr. Correspondent
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 427
serbia
marko.t is on a distinguished road
Credits: 2,040
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sadistic-Savior View Post
Why?

1.We have the most powerful military of any nation that has ever existed.
2.According to history, no one could travel to the moon. And then someone did. There's a first time for everything.
1.Wery funny
Your current military power is not in first 10 in history.
You oven the current world power only to nuclear bomb. Because if there was no nuclear bomb creation you would be crushed by the USSR.

The US rules the world because its economic power and it is spreading poison. There are US products in every part of the world. The global ruling of Hollywood and mtv.American tv series and so on...

The ROMA ruled the whole known word. They had no enemies at the peak of power. And they also thought: There is first time for everything.
There is a serb saying:Nicije nije gorelo do zore!



2.I think that the US landing on the moon is a hoax. Off course i can not prove that. There are lot of scientists that say that.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Red Cross - Donate Today    Save the Rainforest
  #52 (permalink)  
Old 04-03-2008, 11:52 AM
Sadistic-Savior's Avatar
Sadistic-Savior Sadistic-Savior is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 16,346
usa us colorado
Sadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 96,962
Default

Quote:
Your current military power is not in first 10 in history.
Ok. Name at least one military that is alrger than our's is right now. At any time in history.


Quote:
You oven the current world power only to nuclear bomb. Because if there was no nuclear bomb creation you would be crushed by the USSR.
The reverse is true as well.


Quote:
The ROMA ruled the whole known word.
The Chinese didnt seem to think so at the time.


Quote:
There is a serb saying:Nicije nije gorelo do zore!
It is probably as insipid in english as it is on your language.



Quote:
2.I think that the US landing on the moon is a hoax.
heh heh, that statement speaks for itself.



Quote:
Off course i can not prove that. There are lot of scientists that say that.
Which scientists specifically? I'd like to see a single mainstream scientist that still claims that.
__________________
My Political Blog (Most recent update Oct 3rd) - Which Flame Warrior are you?
Reply With Quote
  #53 (permalink)  
Old 04-03-2008, 12:05 PM
KosovoSerb KosovoSerb is offline
Newly Registered
Observer
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Caglavica
Posts: 2
KosovoSerb is on a distinguished road
Default

I am a Serb and a (*)(*)(*)(*) proud one at that but I cannot stand by and watch so many puppet shows being lapped up by my fellow brothers and sisters as God given paths to a realistic future for us all.

Russia will veto Kosovo UN bid Russia!Russia sends aid to Kosovo!.Wow! That is really great. No, I mean it. Thank you to all those in Russia who believe that Serbia is still a friend worthy to help with handouts of political and now some obscure humanitarian aid! There is always a but, isn’t there! But, where was Russia in the aftermath of the bombing and the years of struggle that followed in Kosovo – for all ethnic groups? Don’t start with the holy stories of Russian troops and such. I am talking Money, Investment and Infrastructure. Just take a peek over the mountains and you will see never ending amounts of good green money saturating the economy of Montenegro since it gained its independence.

But Kosovo was dogs’ mess. It always has been to some of our great friends. One of those friends I fear seems very much to be Russia. Only now, when a political poker game is in play, does “Mother” Putin come to the humanitarian rescue of the poor Serbs in Kosovo. At the same time however, our fantastic array of governments has found hard cash to fight and hold elections and then found the wit to follow up with repeated annulments of the very same Mickey Mouse governments that were elected by a Serbian population that is being ridiculed by the very same governments that they tried to elect in the first place to help us all enter a better future. As I said – Puppet show.

Please to all the rest of you, carry on with your taunts to the Albanians, with the street party’s in celebration of Russian aid but ask yourselves just this one question. What have I personally ever done to better the lives of my brothers and sisters in Kosovo (apart from shouting and screaming every five minutes)! Well – our various governments have done about just as much and that is why we are sitting in the middle of a toilet bowl with our fingers in our ears – not because of the big bad Albanians or Americans.
If you find all this too hard to believe then please go back to your fairytale versions of the simple truth. But, Kosovo is no longer part of my Serbia.
Reply With Quote
  #54 (permalink)  
Old 04-03-2008, 12:21 PM
marko.t's Avatar
marko.t marko.t is offline
Sr. Correspondent
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 427
serbia
marko.t is on a distinguished road
Credits: 2,040
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sadistic-Savior View Post
Ok. Name at least one military that is alrger than our's is right now. At any time in history.
With world population at time in calcualtion.1.Mongols 2.Huns...But the number is not important.

ROMA legions defeated much larger enemies armies.

Accent times:1.Mecedonian army(you probably like them much)2.S.P.Q.R legions...Meddle ages:3.Mongol army. Then Napoleon army.
And for me the strongest in history. The German army in ww2.

Like i said size don’t matter. The Russia has bigger army than USA.now.

For the moon operation. I was watching couple of tv doq.History chanel, dicovery.And there whore those that say Americans landed and those that say Americans di not land. And they are all scientists and Americas.
Reply With Quote
  #55 (permalink)  
Old 04-03-2008, 12:38 PM
AmusedToDeath's Avatar
AmusedToDeath AmusedToDeath is offline
Banned
Guru
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mighty Serbia
Posts: 3,555
serbia
AmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud of
Credits: 14,578
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KosovoSerb View Post
I am a Serb and a (*)(*)(*)(*) proud one at that but I cannot stand by and watch so many puppet shows being lapped up by my fellow brothers and sisters as God given paths to a realistic future for us all.

Russia will veto Kosovo UN bid Russia!Russia sends aid to Kosovo!.Wow! That is really great. No, I mean it. Thank you to all those in Russia who believe that Serbia is still a friend worthy to help with handouts of political and now some obscure humanitarian aid! There is always a but, isn’t there! But, where was Russia in the aftermath of the bombing and the years of struggle that followed in Kosovo – for all ethnic groups? Don’t start with the holy stories of Russian troops and such. I am talking Money, Investment and Infrastructure. Just take a peek over the mountains and you will see never ending amounts of good green money saturating the economy of Montenegro since it gained its independence.

But Kosovo was dogs’ mess. It always has been to some of our great friends. One of those friends I fear seems very much to be Russia. Only now, when a political poker game is in play, does “Mother” Putin come to the humanitarian rescue of the poor Serbs in Kosovo. At the same time however, our fantastic array of governments has found hard cash to fight and hold elections and then found the wit to follow up with repeated annulments of the very same Mickey Mouse governments that were elected by a Serbian population that is being ridiculed by the very same governments that they tried to elect in the first place to help us all enter a better future. As I said – Puppet show.

Please to all the rest of you, carry on with your taunts to the Albanians, with the street party’s in celebration of Russian aid but ask yourselves just this one question. What have I personally ever done to better the lives of my brothers and sisters in Kosovo (apart from shouting and screaming every five minutes)! Well – our various governments have done about just as much and that is why we are sitting in the middle of a toilet bowl with our fingers in our ears – not because of the big bad Albanians or Americans.
If you find all this too hard to believe then please go back to your fairytale versions of the simple truth. But, Kosovo is no longer part of my Serbia.
Interesting point of view.
Reply With Quote
  #56 (permalink)  
Old 04-03-2008, 01:36 PM
Sadistic-Savior's Avatar
Sadistic-Savior Sadistic-Savior is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 16,346
usa us colorado
Sadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 96,962
Default

Quote:
Me: Ok. Name at least one military that is alrger than our's is right now. At any time in history.

With world population at time in calcualtion.1.Mongols 2.Huns...But the number is not important.
The Mongols did not have a larger military than the United States currently does. That claim is false.

The Huns did not have a larger military than the United States currently does. That claim is false.


Quote:
ROMA legions defeated much larger enemies armies.
Please post your evidence that Rome defeated a larger army than the US faced in WWII.


Quote:
Like i said size don’t matter. The Russia has bigger army than USA.now.
Um...what is your source for that? Allow me to educate you:


Quote:
Active troops per nation:

2,255,000 - People's Republic of China
1,426,026 -- United States
1,325,000 - India
1,106,000 -- North Korea
1,037,000 - Russia


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._active_troops


Air Force Inventory:

Russia:

2 fifth generation fighters (prototypes only - PAK FA)
28 4.5 Generation fighters (SU-35s and SU-34s)
1371 4th generation fighters (SU-27, SU-30, SU-33, Mig 29, Mig 31, SU-25)

865 3rd generation bombers (SU-24, Tu-22M3 and Tu-160)
64 2nd generation bombers (Tu-95)


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian...raft_inventory


United States:

112 5th generation fighters (all F-22s)
2027 4th generation fighters (all F-16s, F-15s, and F-18s)

21 5th generation bombers (all B2s)
91 4th generation bombers (all B1s)


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...C_1962-present


A detailed Naval comparison can be found here - Russian jets 'intercepted by US' -
I only included the mainstream aircraft for the US btw...according to wikipedia, the US currently has over 7500 military aircraft in service.

As for troops, it should be noted that those are only active...and that the US exceeds Russia despite the fact that we have no conscription. Our military is entirely voluntary right now. Unlike Russia's.

Add that to the fact that the US has DOUBLE Russia's population, and I fail to see how russia exceeds us numerically in anything.
__________________
My Political Blog (Most recent update Oct 3rd) - Which Flame Warrior are you?
Reply With Quote
  #57 (permalink)  
Old 04-03-2008, 06:48 PM
AmusedToDeath's Avatar
AmusedToDeath AmusedToDeath is offline
Banned
Guru
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mighty Serbia
Posts: 3,555
serbia
AmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud ofAmusedToDeath has much to be proud of
Credits: 14,578
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sadistic-Savior View Post
The Mongols did not have a larger military than the United States currently does. That claim is false.

The Huns did not have a larger military than the United States currently does. That claim is false.



Please post your evidence that Rome defeated a larger army than the US faced in WWII.



Um...what is your source for that? Allow me to educate you:



I only included the mainstream aircraft for the US btw...according to wikipedia, the US currently has over 7500 military aircraft in service.

As for troops, it should be noted that those are only active...and that the US exceeds Russia despite the fact that we have no conscription. Our military is entirely voluntary right now. Unlike Russia's.

Add that to the fact that the US has DOUBLE Russia's population, and I fail to see how russia exceeds us numerically in anything.
You have double the population of Russia, and nearly the same amount of soldiers. Besides, size does not always count. Let me educate you: 3/4 of US people would hide in shelters if Russia invaded USA; 3/4 of Russian people would kill you with their teeth if you invaded Russia. That is the difference, and that is something you will never understand. That's why you lost the Vietnam war.
Reply With Quote
  #58 (permalink)  
Old 04-03-2008, 08:07 PM
TrueAlbo2006's Avatar
TrueAlbo2006 TrueAlbo2006 is offline
Commentator
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,093
republic of kosovo us virginia
TrueAlbo2006 is a jewel in the roughTrueAlbo2006 is a jewel in the roughTrueAlbo2006 is a jewel in the roughTrueAlbo2006 is a jewel in the rough
Credits: 41,465
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AmusedToDeath View Post
You have double the population of Russia, and nearly the same amount of soldiers. Besides, size does not always count. Let me educate you: 3/4 of US people would hide in shelters if Russia invaded USA; 3/4 of Russian people would kill you with their teeth if you invaded Russia. That is the difference, and that is something you will never understand. That's why you lost the Vietnam war.

Again, you are underestimating the freedom spirit of the American nation. You would be surprised how million Americans would fight for a just war. self-defense is a different story.


Russia can invade the US after the russians invade the new x solar system. Maybe, Russians would want to migrate to a new planet of the new solar system. Russians are going to pay some hard cash to NASA!
__________________
Jesus beat the devil with two sticks. Colossian 2:13,15

Proud American!

Communism/Socialism is similar to legalizing burglary and murder!

Last edited by TrueAlbo2006; 04-03-2008 at 08:10 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #59 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2008, 12:44 AM
marko.t's Avatar
marko.t marko.t is offline
Sr. Correspondent
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 427
serbia
marko.t is on a distinguished road
Credits: 2,040
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sadistic-Savior View Post
The Mongols did not have a larger military than the United States currently does. That claim is false.

The Huns did not have a larger military than the United States currently does. That claim is false.



Please post your evidence that Rome defeated a larger army than the US faced in WWII.
.
Mongols did have bigger army than US now. But only if you calculate the world population then.100000troopes mean like 25 million now.

Second the German army of ww2 was defeated by the USSR and the alies.And the 3/4 of German army wore in the east front. So the 1/4 was left for allies but also there wore troops in occupied countries like Yugoslavia was.

Joust look at the German population then, they forth against half of the world. And almost won.

The number of troops are classified, in every country.
Your climes are based on Wikipedia and you do now how Wikipedia works???
Reply With Quote
  #60 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2008, 02:55 AM
Grond's Avatar
Grond Grond is offline
Commentator
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Vladivostok
Posts: 1,319
russia
Grond is a glorious beacon of lightGrond is a glorious beacon of lightGrond is a glorious beacon of lightGrond is a glorious beacon of lightGrond is a glorious beacon of lightGrond is a glorious beacon of light
Credits: 5,220
Smile For an average....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ivan View Post
Russia and China are (*)(*)(*)(*) holes anyway.
...semi-educated American, perhaps.*Yawn* It's a high time to show arrogant Americans their proper place - to sit on arse between Canadian and Mexican borders and shut up.
__________________
EU : Portable Stereo AM/FM Radio Cassette Recorder
CIS (Russia) : АМ/ЧМ Stereo Magnitola
US : Boombox (Ghettoblaster)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Russia warns U.S. over illegal arming of Kosovo AmusedToDeath Russia & Eastern Europe 246 04-03-2008 12:44 PM
Russia threatens force over Kosovo illegal independence ! americanfreedom Russia & Eastern Europe 187 03-05-2008 06:36 PM
Does Russia Really Care About Kosovo? SeminalBlog Political Blogs 0 02-26-2008 06:40 PM
Russia denounces Kosovo declaration: Warns West. DuH2 Russia & Eastern Europe 54 02-21-2008 02:11 PM

Sponsored Links

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0
Template-Modifikationen durch TMS
vBCredits v1.3 ©2007 by Darkwaltz4
Advertisement System V2.1 By   Branden