Serbia says "No" to Russian Gasprom Deal - Page 11

drama · #**101** (**permalink**) 04-14-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sadistic-Savior

Yes. I posted several in this thread already. I post links all the time.

Mainstream news; BBC, CNN, FOX, MSNBC. Major papers. I accept some internet sources (Factcheck.org is a good one) as long as they provide sources as well.

True Albo definitely always posts a link and quotes major papers. Is that why you usually agree with him?

Sadistic-Savior · #**102** (**permalink**) 04-14-2008, 02:30 PM

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True Albo definitely always posts a link and quotes major papers. Is that why you usually agree with him?

Agree with him on what?

I'd have to know what he specifically said. It's unlikely I have agreed with his position on every post he has made on here. But I usually ask for sources even if I agree with the person's position. I dont take anyone's word for anything...even if they agree with me.

drama · #**103** (**permalink**) 04-14-2008, 04:42 PM

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=17147

http://www.usatoday.com/news/index/kosovo/koso1006.htm

zmajce77 · #**104** (**permalink**) 04-15-2008, 12:47 AM

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I would like to see how you formed your opinion is what I am saying...
Mainstream news; BBC, CNN, FOX, MSNBC. Major papers. I accept some internet sources (Factcheck.org is a good one) as long as they provide sources as well.

Like i said more books and less TV & internet.I ask you Sadistik do you know something about ,,Pristinska Liga,, and demonstrations back in 80s?I ask you for Racak you didnt answer me.1953 on Kosovo lived about 800.000ppl, 64% was albanians and now there live 1,5 mill. ppl and 98% albanians.Who oppressed who?Yeah , Serbs oppressed albanians and they like it so they come in huge numbers to be more oppressed.Just think of that.Go to library & find some books about Serbia(Kosovo) written before 1990 & read it.You find some amazing things there.On internet everybody can put whatever they want.

xDonnax · #**105** (**permalink**) 04-15-2008, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by zmajce77

Like i said more books and less TV & internet.I ask you Sadistik do you know something about ,,Pristinska Liga,, and demonstrations back in 80s?I ask you for Racak you didnt answer me.1953 on Kosovo lived about 800.000ppl, 64% was albanians and now there live 1,5 mill. ppl and 98% albanians.Who oppressed who?Yeah , Serbs oppressed albanians and they like it so they come in huge numbers to be more oppressed.Just think of that.Go to library & find some books about Serbia(Kosovo) written before 1990 & read it.You find some amazing things there.On internet everybody can put whatever they want.

Where are your sources to back up your numbers and claims?

xDonnax · #**106** (**permalink**) 04-15-2008, 01:50 AM

If anyone wants a more objective view about the Kosova conflict and the Nato air campaign, this is the book; Kosovo- Contending Voices on Balkan Intervention by William J. Buckley

http://www.trinstitute.org/ojpcr/3_2reviews.htm

zmajce77 · #**107** (**permalink**) 04-15-2008, 05:04 AM

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If anyone wants a more objective view about the Kosova conflict and the Nato air campaign, this is the book; Kosovo- Contending Voices on Balkan Intervention by William J. Buckley

http://www.trinstitute.org/ojpcr/3_2reviews.htm
Today 11:43 AM

i said books before 1990 not 2000

Sadistic-Savior · #**108** (**permalink**) 04-15-2008, 07:00 AM

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http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=17147

http://www.usatoday.com/news/index/kosovo/koso1006.htm

Blind links are typically ignored on here because most people will assume they are spam.

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Like i said more books and less TV & internet.

What exactly leads you to believe that books are inherently more accurate than other media sources?

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Who oppressed who?

I didn't see Albanians slaughtering Serbians.

What they did or did not do in the past is irrelevant where that is concerned.

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On internet everybody can put whatever they want.

And they cant do that in books? heh heh

On the internet you get contrasting opinions in real time. A book is basically the same thing as an editorial...you do not get commentary from opposing viewpoints. You get only the author's (often very biased) viewpoint.

Books are also dated. Once written, they cant be corrected or updated. Internet and TV are in real-time. If a newsperson makes a mistake (or is caught in a lie) they are corrected...either by their own network or their rival networks.

Books cant be referenced on here. But I can post a link directly to my source, and you can read it immediately.

zmajce77 · #**109** (**permalink**) 04-15-2008, 07:39 AM

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What exactly leads you to believe that books are inherently more accurate than other media sources?

You have media sponsored by politicians, state etc. so media provide you informations by sponsor politics.True author write from sources in his investigations and if he is objective he will write good and correct book. Media cant ban his book like they can news they dont like it.

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I didn't see Albanians slaughtering Serbians.

What they did or did not do in the past is irrelevant where that is concerned.

Its more then irrelevant.You didnt read my post about population on Kosovo in last 50 years.Why Serbs leave Kosovo.But nmd if you say present is matter what happen in march.2004.http://www.kosovo.net/news_pogrom.html. So Albanians do all the things you can even imagine in yours worst dream.Why you didnt bomb them then.KFOR just only sit and wait.Free you mind.

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Books are also dated. Once written, they cant be corrected or updated. Internet and TV are in real-time. If a newsperson makes a mistake (or is caught in a lie) they are corrected...either by their own network or their rival networks.

Its a point of true.You cant rewrite history in books like you can on NET or media everyday.For example : all ppl in Germany in WW2 believe to Hitler and his propaganda but after WW2 they all said it was wrong.

xDonnax · #**110** (**permalink**) 04-15-2008, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by zmajce77

i said books before 1990 not 2000

This book covers the Balkan history as well. If you had read through table of contents you'd notice.

http://www.trinstitute.org/ojpcr/3_2reviews.htm

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The book is structured into seven sections, each providing a different perspective on the conflict. Buckley was careful to balance firsthand accounts with academic approaches and comments from political figures active in the conflict and its resolution.

Within the sections, the articles were chosen to provide a dialectic analysis of the Kosovo question, and the variety of well-argued viewpoints come as something of a surprise for anyone whose knowledge of the situation is primarily derived from the mainstream media.

The diversity of contributors is exceptional. Buckley has gathered statements from political leaders such as Slobodan Milosivic, Kofi Annan, and Vaclav Havel; peacekeeping and military leaders such as General Wesley K. Clark and Javier Solona; foreign policy experts such as Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski; and thinkers as disparate as Jurgen Habermas and Jean Bethke Elshtain. Along with these outside perspectives, Buckley included a diverse selection of Balkan contributors. The result is a book that succeeds in giving each perspective an opportunity to be heard.

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